----- Original Message ----- From: "Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] almost totally <ot>
> On Saturday 27 December 2003 00:41, SN wrote: > > > > I, too, have a general aversion to RPM, but the modern distros like > > > > SUSE and Red Hat do a fine job of doing dependancy checking (a la > > > > portage) > > > > and > > > > > > relieving the less savy user from the intricacies of RPM. The one > > > > thing they don't have is the tremendously broad availability of > > > > standard packages (a la > > > > portage). Hunting down a suitable RPM package is now the worst aspect > > > > of > > > > > > an > > > > I don't think so, look at mandrake cooker and you will notice, that they > > have at least as many apps in rpm form as gentoo ebuilds. > > I have never counted them, but I thought they even have more rpms for apps > > than gentoo, at least I have seen rpms there for apps that gentoo still > > doesn't have. > > So that doesn't count. > > > > I have used rpm distros for years, but portage was not the reason for me to > > switch to gentoo. > > Mandrake for example has an extraordinary rpm system "urpmi" with some > > scripting skills you can even use it to download srpms and compile > > everything from source, it is better that apt-get. But most people think > > rpm can't do much more than install and deinstall packages. > > > > Sorry, this message went to the wrong list, but thanks for the info about > Mandrake. My experience with Mandrake Cooker in the past (2 years back) was > that nothing was really cooked even medium rare, i.e. there was a lot of > subtly broken stuff. Maybe they've improved with age. The problem is, that people mix cooker packges with stable packages, if yu run stable and you just need 2 or 3 packages, then you should use the srpms from cooker and recompile them.The reason why you should do it is: when you install a unstable ackage in a gentoo box, you still compile it. But if you install a package from cooker, the problem is if you install the package some month after the initial stable release the cooker boxes have already updated packages of glibc gcc perl etc. and if they compile the packages now they get incompatible to the stable release, that is why lots of packages don't work correctly on a stable box, therefore if you use cooker there are two choices, either update everything or recompile certain packages you want. > > -- > Collins > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
