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From: "Mickey Mullin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Base layout causing pointless config updates


> SN wrote:
> > As soon as gentoo starts to create scripts for any crap I switch again
to
> > another distro, the advantage of not having tools for anything is, that
> > those tools can't break.
> > Look at Suse RedHat Mandrake, 30% of their bugs come from the tools they
> > wrote.
>
> Having tools available doesn't mean that you are required to use them.
> I don't use RedHat any more, but when I *was*, I would edit
> configuration files by hand rather than use the tools provided with the
> distro.  One, I don't like installing a GUI on a server (it seems that
> the graphical configuration tools are better known in later RH
> versions).  Two, if I have to first find and then read about a tool that
> simply writes text to a file, I'd rather edit the file by hand.  I find
> that easier.  (Finding distro-specific config tools is much more
> difficult on a CLI, since you can't just browse to "System Tools" in the
> application menu.)
>
> However, there are probably hundreds or thousands of people using those
> tools in place of file editing.  Seriously, do you still append users to
> the end of /etc/passwd with vi, or do you use "useradd"?  (I do both,
> depending on circumstances.)

Well there are already lots of distros out there, that can satisfy the need
for guid tools and people that are looking for a windows like config use
mandrake or suse. Just ask Gentoo users why they switched, it is definitely
not because they wanted everything done with tools.




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