On Saturday 31 January 2004 20:30, Jerry McBride wrote:

> 1-PROGRESS BARS... man-o-man would I love a progress bar during an
> emerge update, instead of all the text that gets listed to console.
> And "updating portage cache"... WOW. That's a real friendly,
> informative screen update. :') Maybe just expanding the existing
> -quiet switch in emerge would be better?

A progress bar is just a optical effect in my eyes. I can see the progress
in the title of my shell (e.g. compiling package 1 of 8).
But it's nothing to say against adding a -progressbar feature to emerge.
If anybody like it, he has the choice.

> 2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and
> emerge updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above.

It's IMHO a good thing if anything goes wrong while installing/updating.
And you can see what compiler flags are used for the currently installing
package. But also here is nothing to say against a switch for emerge,
that will supress these messages for those who don't like so much
information.

> 3-STARTUP SCRIPTS... Yup, Gentoo is beautiful. I use it all the time,
> on maybe a dozen computers of various architecture and brand. But I
> really have issue with the manner of organizing the system startup
> scripts. Could we please, use something more granular, more static?
> Like the good, old fashion SystemV stuff that they used in Caldera
> Open Linux? KDE ships with a SysV editor that would be a PERFECT
> match for something like this. I'm so tired of booting the laptops at
> work and wating for the "CACHING" to complete... If nothing else is
> done, please see PROGRESS BARS above.

Changing to SysV isn't a bad idea, because it's a standard. But I'm really
not interested in a GUI-Tool to manage it. Maybe ncurses based, ok.
But I also think, the momentary startup-system is easy to handle.

> 4-DEVFS is a horrible beast... Have odd hardware? Have odd drivers?
> You gotta' edit the devfs config file... Blah... Please go back to
> using a static /dev directory like Linus intended. :') It's one of
> the FIRST things I remove from my Gentoo installs and it's soooo much
> better.

I never had problems with devfs. It has IMHO the advantage, that I
can see immediately if a device exits or not.

Yes, I know, I'm a conservative. ;)

cu

lukas

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