On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,
Grendel wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for linux :-)
Grendel
It's a question what u mean by "support".
If by support u mean delivery of crappy proprietary closed code drivers, u are right.
First of all, let me illustrate the fallacy of the above comments.
1. Crappy?? Well dude the last time I checked NVIDIA linux drivers frame
rates are equivalent to the windows drivers. The same game sometimes gives better frame rates than the windows version. Also the stability is excellent, I have been playing neverwinter nights with full detail on for
I have seen a lot of nvidia stability related problems in ML's. And personally had problems to make nvidia to work on VIA chipset using proprietary drivers.
12 hours continously, of course I took a trip to the loo in between ;-) but the game was running for 12 hours continously without a single crash or lockup.
Hmmm ... I never had troubles with xfree-drm and Radeon 7500.
IMHO NVIDIA provides the best support for linux 3d hardware accelrated cards. Just see how difficult it is to setup 3d under ATI cards.
It depends, if u know it, it's really easy :-).
Its the opensource nvidia (nv.o) drivers which are crappy and have poor 3d support, with poor 3d features.
Fine, but it's only a logical result of fact, nvidia hide documentation.
IMHO support for Open software system (as Linux is) means open drivers & documentation.
I am sure RMS (Richard Stallman) would be happy with a fanatical disciple of free software like you.
It has nothing to do with fanatism, but security ... I have lot of experience with proprietary software, and can say in many cases code was stolen from Open source, but badly implemented.
Today are 3D drivers very sophistcated, but if sources are open mistakes can be easier patched and deceptions easier discovered. (nvidia likes to do it, check google for "nvidia benchmark scandal")
Probably everybody knows about microshit XP "remote supervision feature". Would u like to have an OS, which is totally under the control of microshit stuff, government, secret services and/or mafia ? I would not be surprised if herd of trojan horses or some security holes are discovered in nvidia drivers.
Lets face the real world, I want good performance out of my 3d card and I dont care even if it is a propritary driver, whats difference does it make to me, I am not going to get my computer blessed for running 100% free software by St ignucius (RMS) am I?
If the open source driver is better than the propritary one then by all means I will use the opensource driver, otherwise I will stick with nvidia.com.
It's fine, u can make a choice ... IMHO.
At least they are decent enough to support linux in this way, so be thankful, there was a time when 3d card companies couldnt care about linux at all.
This is only a question of linux spreadness. If linux comunity has 50% OS installed, am am sure all producers have to support it (or they lose the market).
Grendel
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