Hello, Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 19:27 schrieb Norbert Kamenicky: > Grendel wrote: > > the reason they arent open sourcing is that they are (justifiably) afraid > > that ATI will have a look at their driver interface to the card, then > > they (ATI) can figure out the current wekneses of NVIDIA cards and > > improve there ATI's based on that. Its not that they dont like the linux > > community, if that is the case they wouldnt even bother about releasing > > even a closed source driver. > > Now I definitely know u are nvidia employee, but nevertheless > did u hear about "reverse engineering"?
Yes, I did. > It's not a problem to disassemble the "super fantastic" > nvidia driver and spy the "ultra top" secret inside. And if some > company is very interested, they does it already. > But what for u need to plagiate driver if u have different HW ? So it is that easy? Why isn't XFree going that way to enable DRI on nvidia cards then? > I would say nvidia is worry about the same thing as microshit. > If they open the sources, a lot of programmers will die. > 50% will die on terrible smile disease reading it. > 50% will catch an infarct, if they recognize their Open source > code, which was stolen and diletantly used. Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just flaming? I am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux. Otherwise I had to use a card with worse 3D support. The 9800 Atis are not yet supported by GPL'ed drivers, are they? Btw: from where did you get the incredible wisdom, that only opensource developers can do clean codeing? > > Just get realistic and tell me does nvidia make a profit by writing a > > driver for linux, no way at all, the windows market for nvidia cards is > > much greater than the linux desktop market which is very small. So they > > For sure they earn money from it, if not today, they are just looking > forward. Who needs a card without driver ? Me sure not ! Exactly. So they release drivers for linux, that people like me can use. No need for open-source drivers, cause they work. The power of dri-developers should be aimed to get yet-unsupported cards working, not to add "yet another flavour of an accelerated nvidia-driver". > > are doing a service and if you dont like what they are producing then > > instead of grumbling just use any other driver you like. > > > > Even if they open sourced it, it would probablky take years for people to > > figure out how the code works, remember that 3d cards are really rocket > > science. > > U must be very well informed, have u got actions of nvidia? > Remember, intel declared 386 cpu so sophisticated, nobody in the > world can clone it. Few months later it was cloned in East Germany. > I am sure next cpus are clonable as well. You are right here. Opensource developers would be able to program a working driver for nvidia cards given the original source and documentation. But why should they? There are cards out there not supported at all. Better do the work there. > And if it is really true, than progress can be achieved only > by opening the sources, 'cause no company has so big programmer's > power as linux has. My nvidia board works better with linux than any other grafics card I own (Ati, Sis, Savage). So my opinion is, that people at nvidia know, what they are doing. And as addition: No, I do not work there and no, I do not get money from nvidia for saying this. > noro Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
