On Sunday 16 January 2005 00:22, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >On Saturday 15 January 2005 18:56, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> >>Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

>
> The failing capacitors plagued quite a few manufacturers including IBM.
> My Matsonic had that problem (MS8127C) I replaced all the caps on that
> board and has been running great since (1.5yrs now)  I borrowed a
> Gigabyte mobo and the end result was the same. Tried a new cpu and voila
> it just works. Two bad cpu's I would have never thought.  The 1.2G
> Athlon has been my test CPU for quite some time  and finally it  is
> glitched. I replaced it with an AMD Athlon-xp 2600 and is now done with
> the bootstrap and is compiling the system.  By the way, A great many
> mobo manufacturers bought those caps only to find the electrolyte
> formula to be faulty thus breaking down, taking the mobo with it. There
> was quite an article in just about every tech publication on this planet
> explaining that fiasco.
>

boah, faulty cpu is rare and real bad luck.  Not so like bad mobos.. *sigh*

I have seen an ECS some days ago, with over thirty defective capacitors. The 
owner noticed, that the stability was flaky, but that was much more than 
expected.  On the 'junk heap' where the electronic-trash waits for recycling 
are several boards (asus, msi,ecs) which no visible defects, but one ore two 
deformed or leaky capacitors. 
This sucks. Especially, if you take a working mobo out of your box, try the 
same board three month later and see two things: the box does not boot, and 
one or more capacitors are defective. 

Or PSUs. 

The problem is: they (the vendors) wanted to make the boards as cheap as 
possible. No problem with cheapo-board vendors. But when I buy a high prized 
ASUS or MSI board, I do not want to see it fail 6 month later, because the 
solded the cheapest caps onto the boards, they could get.  

We have reached a point, where it does not make sense to buy 'quality' stuff, 
because the differences between the brands are mostly the stamp on the pcb.. 
and its colors.

Years ago, you could buy a gigabyte, asus or tyan board and feel pretty safe. 
Today you are forced to find out, that they use the same cheap stuff, all the 
mobo-vendors are using. 

 *rant* *morerant*


*sigh*


Gl�ck Auf
Volker 

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