Myself I just installed fetchmail to get my gmail messages and then use
courier-imap to read them. Works like a charm, no problems at all.

>
> > I like GMail but it comes with its own way of working.
> >
> > - Mark
>
> AFAICT you do get the mail in the thread. IIRC it didn't used too and
> now will show your message if you start a thread. The thing is that
> there may be some in this thread that use gmail pop (like me). What
> gmail does *not* do is mark your message as new (cos it's not), so you
> won't get it with the other new pop messages in your (for example)
> thunderbird inbox.
> I might be wrong about it showing up in the web interface but the rest
> is good.
> Cheers
> Antoine
> ps. This is still quite annoying!
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