A. Khattri wrote:On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:
Not necessarily... obviously there's nothing one can do about gmail, but I just did a test on Thunderbird, which does not "natively" give you the List-Id header as a choice in the message filters fields.
That's not the point though is it? - users shouldn't be *have* alter their
setups to deal with this.
If users had decent filter setups to begin with, there would be nothing to alter. I haven't had to alter any of my filters because I filter on List-id.
Well, that's the thing. I don't consider my previous setup (filtering on Subject contains [gentoo-user] and the like) to have been a "decent filter setup", but it worked as an ugly hack. Clearly, filtering on List-Id is more elegant and "secure" in the sense that it's more likely to work properly as it is less subject to possible error-- for instance, if somebody mailed me off-topic because of something I said on the list, that mail would be filtered to the ML folder due to the subject, which is not actually where I would want it. Whereas, with the new system, it would not be filtered to the ML folder because it wouldn't have the List-Id, which is the behaviour I would want.
But the only reason I did it that way was because I didn't know any better, so thanks a lot for teaching me something.... and sorry, A., but I don't get your point.
The reason that applications are configurable, is so that users can configure them. I had not configured Thunderbird, so naturally I had the potential to run into "problems" with the intermediate setup of the list server. But had I configured it in the first place, and not relied on Mozilla.org's "best guess" on what "sane defaults" I needed, I probably wouldn't have noticed anything was even happening, except for the odd address in some user's reply-to's.
It seems weird to hear a Gentoo user saying that users should be inflexible in their configurations-- and stand on that right, by gum!
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