On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:40 +0200, Bryan Oestergaard wrote: > I don't think 'fixing' is likely to happen as this discussion happens > frequently. It mostly boils down to the list handling being correct but > some clients seems to behave incorrectly. > > Personally, I'd prefer if the clients handle lists properly. > > See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40980 for more information. > > Regards, > Bryan Ãstergaard
And if you look you will see I have posted there, and got no reponse, which is about par for the course from the admins on this list. I emailed one of the list admins twice yesterday with info on the mailing loop, in the hope that it might help her sort it quickly. Not so much as an acknowledgement or a thank you. That sucks. I have often thought about offering to help gentoo more actively, perhaps volunteering to help write documentation (I am no programmer), but the attitude of many of the people round here is frankly arrogant and rude, and every time I verge on offering to help, I get put off by that sort of behaviour. At the risk of annoying people, but for your benefit in case you don't read the whole list, here is something I posted in another message to the list on the subject of the email list configuration (the behaviour I am referring to is the dumping of the list address into to: and cc: on some clients): <quote> i am firmly of the view that as this is the only list that I am on (of very many) that exhibits the behaviour, it is a configuration problem. Technically your config may follow the letter of whatever standard(s) are applicable, but it is causing a problem that didn't arise before "robin", and therefore I humbly submit that whatever configuration option is causing this to happen should be fixed. IE the previous configuration didn't exhibit the behaviour, and on my observation didn't seem broken, so it should be kept. I know that the "ideal" would be to educate the users to either use different clients or use their clients differently, but frankly the fact that very regular posters are double posting time and time again, hour after hour, day after day, week after week, means that user education is not working in this case. Assuming that the frequent posters, who are regularly offending, read the majority of the list mail, one would assume that if they were capable of being educated, it would have sunk in by now. </quote> I say again, no other list I am on exhibits this problem, just bloody change it back the the way it used to be, right, wrong or debateable in technical terms. what is easiest and most convenient for the majority of users, and causes the least annoyances, is the "right" config I'll add that I have no problem if I hit "reply" in evolution, nor in Becky! (my client in the windows environment). It is other peoples messages that are annoying, not anything I have to do in my practice. However if I did have the problem of my client putting the list into To: and cc: I would understandably forget to delete the extra address most of the time. Its late and maybe I had a long day sorting out clients' (non computer) problems. Good night. > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:22:56PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > > I suggest the first thing is to fix this bloody mailing list and > > whatever it is doing that makes a large number of people who click > > "reply" send their message twice. > > > > -- > [email protected] mailing list > -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [email protected] mailing list
