Alexey Starinsky wrote:

>Hello, Erik.
>
>You wrote 5 May 2005 y., 15:11:05:
>
>Erik> Hello,
>Erik> I have an idea to control a hydraulic system with software. Now I would
>Erik> like some suggestions for hardware and software. Sorry for my bad
>Erik> english, but I barely know what these things mean in swedish yet. I have
>Erik> never done anything like this before.
>
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>Erik> If you have done anything like this before, or know where I can find
>Erik> more information or know about some more specialized mailing list, I
>Erik> would appreciate your suggestions.
>
>Let me intoduce myself - I am an professional electronics engineer and
>regularly solve such a tasks at work.
>  
>
Hello!

>First, let me make some comments:
>You assume to make the Linux (or any other OS) to run the programm
>and make all control that you need.
>
>Your idea pros:
>+ It seems very simple - just to write control loop that reads the
>sensors, and operates axtuators. Just a simple program in C/C++
>
>Your idea cons:
>- Just imagine the situation when your PC hangs or just need reboot:
>control loop (sensors - actuators) can operate unexpectedly.
>Of cource, if reboot is intended, you can disconnect any
>driver/actuator manually, but that still does not help if PC behaves
>unexpectedly.
>  
>
A working PC with Linux very rarely hangs (for me so far), mostly when
running something in X. And even if it would hang, I believe the
physical the damage would be limited in my case.

>I suppose you need embedded solution that can operate even
>independently without PC, but can be controlled and monitored from it
>if needed.
>  
>
I do not really need it to operate it without PC. It is OK to have a PC
connected to the device all the time I use it. And if I sometimes for
some reason I can not have a PC connected, I can handle it manually,
like I do now.


>Typcally embedded solution is a board with microcontroller that makes
>all control with typically the simple program inside. Board can have
>any interface you want: (simplest is COM - RS232, USB is also
>possible) and can be /monitored/controlled using PC via any custom
>protocol + custom programme on desktop.
>  
>

Yes, someone mentioned PLC. I will look around to see if I find anything
that can be bought here in Sweden. I saw on freshmeat that all Free
Software related to PLC seem to be designed for a device called "Allen
Bradley ControlLogix". I do not know if that can be bought here.

>Also, it can be operated and controlled independently - via keyboard +
>any smaller/bigger LCD as a display.
>  
>
Yes, a small keypad and display would be good, to enter numbers and
select commands from a menu. It would not have to be larger
keypad/display than on for example a texas instruments calculator (TI-83).


>Usually I make all nesessary hardware by myself (schematics, PCB,
>assemly, embedded software, e.t.c.), as all modules that are sold on
>market are fairly expencive (if compared with actual cost of electronic
>parts that are installed on that hardware).
>
>If you want, I could help you with your task.
>

Thanks for my offer! If I get started with something I will most likely
have questions. I assume it would be difficult for you to help me in any
other way than by email, unless you happen to live nearby (but I assume
you live somewhere in Russia). The device is a verys small-scale
portable sawmill, which I bought used last summer and intend to use when
time permits (currently during the summer holidays, because I study
engineering away from home the rest of the year).

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