El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:04:29AM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky me decía: > * Fernando Canizo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27/07/05 07:15]: > > > > Hi all. > > > > I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, > > basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've > > tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my > > problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide > > library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: > > I find it hard to believe that this is the problem. You say that you can > use utf8 when you are composing (or writing some other stuff), right? > What are the values of 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' in vim when > replying? > Moshe
Like i said to Richard, maybe you're right. I mean: i can write an utf-8 file from scratch using vim alone, so why would not when invoking vim from mutt? Maybe is that mutt is telling vim something incorrect when they communicate. Well, i'll give more information, but this gonna grow large ;) Reading the mutt FAQ (http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttFaq/Charset) and checking everything is ok: locale seems to be ok: ~$ locale LANG=es_AR.utf-8 LC_CTYPE="es_AR.utf-8" LC_NUMERIC="es_AR.utf-8" LC_TIME="es_AR.utf-8" LC_COLLATE="es_AR.utf-8" LC_MONETARY="es_AR.utf-8" LC_MESSAGES="es_AR.utf-8" LC_PAPER="es_AR.utf-8" LC_NAME="es_AR.utf-8" LC_ADDRESS="es_AR.utf-8" LC_TELEPHONE="es_AR.utf-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="es_AR.utf-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_AR.utf-8" LC_ALL=es_AR.utf-8 the locales settings are supported: ~$ locale -a C es_AR es_AR.utf8 POSIX checking if the locales work with perl: ~$ perl -e "" ok doesn't show anything checking if perl is doing the right things by setting an erroneous locale: ~$ env LC_ALL=nocharset perl -e "" perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "es_AR.utf-8", LC_ALL = "nocharset", LC_CTYPE = "es_AR.utf-8", LANG = "es_AR.utf-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). ok, it cries, so it's working ok my ~/.signature is in utf-8, my ~/.alias is too i got this in my ~/.vimrc: set encoding=utf-8 set fileencoding=utf-8 set termencoding=utf-8 and when mutt invokes vim i re-check that this is ok, and is ok (i mean i check in runtime and it obbeys the configuration) i got this in my ~/.muttrc: set send_charset="us-ascii:utf-8" set charset="utf-8" set locale="es_AR.utf8" from the mutt man i know this settings should not be necessary, since the system is configured ok, but i try with and without and get no difference. Ok, that's all concerning configuration. Now i tell you how the problem works: in mutt, if i compose a mail from scratch, without anything, not even signature, and put a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (got that name from unicode chart), and then send it to myself, and to a friend, my friend sees it ok and i too. But if now i reply to this same mail, when vim comes with the quoted text that mutt passes to it y see garbage. So mutt is ok seeing and sending utf-8, vim is ok writing and reading utf-8, but when both "cooperate", things get screwed. I investigate what was in the archives, so i saved a copy (using 'C' command from mutt) of the first message (the one i receive from me) and file says: 'UTF-8 Unicode mail text', check what's inside with hexedit and see that LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE is encoded with this hex: C3 A1 (which is not 00 E1 from unicode chart from http://www.unicode.org/charts/) Then i got that same mail and press 'r' from mutt to respond, comes vim with garbled text, and without touching anything i save it under some other name, and then cancel message, file in this saved text gives me: 'UTF-8 Unicode text', but when i see inside with hexedit, i got this hex for the same letter: C3 83 C2 A1, so now i have 4 bytes instead of the too before. So vim-mutt (?) is re-encoding the stuff. Like i said before, checking in vim when called from mutt for enc, and fenc gives utf-8 like it should. I create a file with vim to check this differences with the unicode chart and i got C3 A1 too, so maybe the problem is with vim, it should put 00 E1 for LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE. Well, that's all i remember to have done for this problem. I'm with this for 4 months now, i think, i took the problem, get tired of searching and testing stuff, leave for a month, get to charge again, and so on. But now i really want to solve it. I think i'm going to crosspost this to vim and mutt mailing lists. But if someone here knows how to solve this, i appreciate any help, tip, direction to look or search, or maybe praying would do the job. Linking after build vim to libncursesw the way Richard say a couple of mails before didn't solve it. If there is a way to say to emerge that link vim to this library from the beginning i would like to try it. Besides if anyone knows how to get which programs are using a library (i have done it before, but at this time my brain is screwed). What i didn't tried yet is 'the redmond way', i want to stay away from that metod, if possible. Thanks in advance. -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar Antonym, n.: The opposite of the word you're trying to think of. -- [email protected] mailing list
