On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 02:37:24PM -0400, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote

> No fixable, in reality. The flexibility of udev is in part in that the
> userspace can (and actually do) run arbitrary scripts and binaries
> from udev rules. You can "fix" the ones that require binaries in /usr
> *NOW*, but not forever, unless you forbid the use of arbitrary
> binaries from udev rules.

  No the problem is that I don't think we should force 100% of all
users to migrate to initramfs or a Windows-like C:\ simply to satisfy
the 1% that run into problems with the current udev.  Let *THOSE* users
migrate to initramfs or a Windows-like C:\.

> And then you lose the flexibility.

  And then *I* lose the flexibility of a small / *WITHOUT* initramfs.

[i3][root][/] "fdisk -l" shows

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1              63  1953520064   976760001    5  Extended
/dev/sda5             126      530144      265009+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6          530208    19422584     9446188+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7        19422648  1953520064   967048708+  83  Linux

  Some lines from /etc/fstab
/dev/sda5               /         ext2     noatime,nodiratime,async 0 1
/dev/sda7               /home     reiserfs noatime,nodiratime,async,notail 0 1
/home/bindmounts/opt    /opt      auto     bind 0 0
/home/bindmounts/var    /var      auto     bind 0 0
/home/bindmounts/usr    /usr      auto     bind 0 0
/home/bindmounts/tmp    /tmp      auto     bind 0 0
/dev/sda6               none      swap     sw 0 0

[i3][root][/] du -cs /usr
5664646 /usr
5664646 total

> And yeah, that's not how classical Unix do things. Who cares? Linux
> does it so much better.

And yeah, that's not how classical Gentoo does things. Who cares? Distro X
does it so much better. </SARCASM>  Guess what, if I really wanted to
run Distro X, I'd be running Distro X.

  And for those that claim /var would never be needed early, what if
somebody's weirdo setup wants a network connection early?  I assume
they'd want the firewall to be up when the network goes up.  Ever heard
of /var/lib/iptables/rules-save ?

-- 
Walter Dnes <[email protected]>

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