Hi, Mike. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 03:56:01PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Neil Bothwick <[email protected]> writes: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > >> > As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start to > > >> > realize that the idea of "tiny partition that contains just what I > > >> > need to boot and mount /usr" is becoming "not so tiny" anymore. The > > >> > distinction between what is "boot" software versus "user" software > > >> > gets less clear. > > >> Again, isn't this the same for an initramfs? > > > No, because an initramfs only needs enough to mount / and /usr, then > > > everything else comes from the usual source. If you're not using and > > > fancy block devices, the initramfs only needs busybox and an init > script. > > > Even adding LVM, RAID and encryption only requires three more binaries > > > - and those are all disposed of once switch_root is run and the tmpfs > > > released. > > The question remains. If it's possible to do that from an initramfs, then > > shouldn't it be possible to put the same tools and binarias on /, and > mount > > /usr early? I don't think you've understood the question - you certainly haven't answered it. > Yes , of course it's /possible/, it's just not /practical/. Why not? > Changing the contents of your initramfs is a decision you, as an admin, make > that affects your system(s). s%initramfs%/sbin%, then how does the sentence not apply? > Changing the installed location of, say, udevd and bluetoothd and whatever > other tools need to get pulled out of /usr is a decision that affects > everyone who is using those packages. Changing the order of init scripts is > an even bigger mess, but mostly because of the software requirements to make > it function. That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to copy (not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs - the exact same programs, modulo noise - to have the SW in /sbin necessary to mount /usr. Our loveable upstream suppliers are making us mount /usr early in the boot process. Why can't this be done as well from /sbin as from initramfs? [ .... ] > --Mike -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

