On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30/07/12 07:28, Michael Mol wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use  95 W
>>>>>> (some of the more costly AMDs use  125 W ).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that power savings are not important if you're not using a laptop.
>>>>> CPU
>>>>> power savings on a desktop don't translate to any relevant amount of
>>>>> money
>>>>> on your electricity bills.  This is because neither of those CPUs
>>>>> really
>>>>> use
>>>>> 95W.  That's just the thermal upper limit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, power savings are relevant if you're concerned about your
>>>> electric bill, or if you're concerned about heat management in your
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> Consider my dual E5345...leaving that on 24x7 appears to cost me about
>>>> 90USD/mo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CPU power savings will transform that into a 89.9USD/mo ;-)  That's what
>>> I
>>> mean.  It's not worth much.  It helps quite a bit with laptop battery
>>> life.
>>> But for desktops, it doesn't do anything too useful.
>>
>>
>> If you really want the hard numbers, check out some place like Tom's
>> Hardware or Phoronix. I forget which does the power consumption
>> measurements. At some of the hardware review blogs, you can get
>> numbers on idle vs full-load power consumption, as measured at the
>> wall. The difference truly is striking.
>
>
> When you have full load, the CPU won't clock down.  So nothing saved there.

When you're considering full load, the TDP becomes a useful estimation
of relative power consumption between different processors.

> If you don't have full load, the clock-down doesn't save much compared to
> max clocks while idle.

This is where you're wrong.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-23.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-power-consumption-efficiency,3060-11.html

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