On Mon, August 19, 2013 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 19/08/2013 22:32, jo...@antarean.org wrote: >>> X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was >>> >designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+ >>> >years. Almost all factors that made X11 awesome in the 80s and 90s >>> >simply are not there anymore. >> X11 was still really awesome in 2002. When we used remote graphical >> logons to different machines. >> It also helped with performance of certain desktop applications. Running >> the application on a different machine (with better CPU) then the >> machine I was working at always made people wonder why the same >> application was performing so badly on theirs ;) >> >> But these days. Having fast reliable performance locally is better. With >> a decent RDP that can connect to an existing desktop without having to >> set it up as shared from the beginning is more useful. Any ideas on >> that? > > Agreed. I've gotten so used to all that local *GL* goodness that running > almost any app (except maybe xterm) remotely is just so painful it makes > me cry...
For remote access, I can live without all the special effects. > I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java > installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left with > just the best remote interface ever - ssh and bash. So I can afford to > be smug :-) ssh -Y <host> works really well for those. I always feel smug when others first need to figure out how to get a remote-X connection to the server because they use MS Windows. They often claim that a VNC-server is a valid pre-req... Take it from me, that is NOT a requirement to install the software. > I don't know how to make your RDP problem easier - I treat that the same > as allow/deny rules for ssh (or any other kind of access really) and > just accept that sometimes I need to ask first for something to be > allowed. again, I can afford to be smug here too as the only things I > need to RDP to are terminals set up for that very purpose and VirtualBox > VMs (that is one more check box at the create stage). For me the usage case is as follows: 1) I start to do something on my desktop at home 2) I go to the office or customer site 3) I need to continue/finish what I was doing (it's usually for a customer in that case) ... At this point, I can't continue. Unless I remembered to run a VNC server and used vnc to localhost for step 1. With a MS Windows desktop, it is usually (sometimes I get a "clean" desktop and still can't continue) possible. One option would be to be able to redirect an application to a different X-server and when that one dies/disconnects/... it will reconnect to the initial (my desktop) one. This is also not something I found yet either. For these activities, all the latest *GL* goodies are not necessary and I can easily live without them. Remote 3D gaming isn't something I want to do. -- Joost
