Canek Peláez Valdés <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés 
> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Hi.  I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not 
> >> >> >> >> been
> >> >> >> >> able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell 
> >> >> >> >> script
> >> >> >> >> by itself.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> > [Unit]
> >> >> >> > Description=Mailman mailing list service
> >> >> >> > After=network.target
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > [Service]
> >> >> >> > Type=forking
> >> >> >> > ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start
> >> >> >> > ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop
> >> >> >> > User=mailman
> >> >> >> > Group=mailman
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > [Install]
> >> >> >> > WantedBy=multi-user.target
> >> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I don't have any for innd.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> [Unit]
> >> >> >> Description=The Internet News daemon
> >> >> >> Documentation=man:innd(8)
> >> >> >> ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [Service]
> >> >> >> Type=simple
> >> >> >> ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news
> >> >> >> ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop
> >> >> >> User=news
> >> >> >> Group=news
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [Install]
> >> >> >> WantedBy=multi-user.target
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force 
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred
> >> >> >> over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news
> >> >> >> always is present, add the following to a new file
> >> >> >> /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> d    /var/run/news   0755 news news 10d -
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned
> >> >> >> automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please
> >> >> >> let us know.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > OK, thanks again.  I have one question which this brings up -- and 
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to
> >> >> > /run  and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which
> >> >> > are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost
> >> >> > never create such -- is putting things in  /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct
> >> >> > way to fix this?
> >> >>
> >> >> tmpfiles.d is from systemd:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html
> >> >>
> >> >> However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it.
> >> >> I don't know if that actually happened.
> >> >>
> >> >> With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a
> >> >> tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config
> >> >> files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of
> >> >> directories and files there.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know if it's the "correct" way to fix anything; but it works.
> >> >>
> >> > Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing
> >> > directory and if not, how can I do this?
> >>
> >> I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are,
> >> by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be
> >> preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time
> >> (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals
> >> with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not "updating"
> >> them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up.
> >>
> >> The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units,
> >> and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then
> >> only clean afterwards.
> >>
> >> My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd
> >> mounts a tmpfs on it:
> >>
> >> # mount | grep "on /run"
> >> tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755)
> >>
> >> Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no
> >> file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever.
> >
> > But I need to change the permissions of /var/lock to 777, if I can't use
> > tmpfiles.d how can I do this?
> 
> chmod 777 /var/lock? I don't understand the question. What program do
> you need that requires universal writing access for /var/lock? In my
> systems, /var/lock is either bind mounted from /run/lock, or a soft
> link to /run/lock, and /run/lock is root:root and 755.
> 

I need regular users to put files in /var/lock and it is annoying to
have to change the permissions and so I have it on a file system and
never need to touch it.
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