On Thu, Sep 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for >>> gnome-3.8. I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building >>> that one up.] >>> >>> On my main system (currently running openrc) I have masked all of >>> gnome-3.8. I wonder if this was an error and I can remove the >>> mask. Is it the case that >>> >>> 1. Running openrc instead of systemd means you must mask gnome-3.8 >>> >>> or >>> >>> 2. It is ok to emerge gnome-3.8 without a mask but some pieces will >>> stay at 3.6? >>> >>> In other words can I eliminate my file >>> /etc/portage/package.mask/gnome-3.8 >>> with all the 3.8 builds? >> >> Well, Canek is the systemd guru in this group, but I have been able >> to boot my ~amd64 test machine successfully using *either* openrc or >> systemd. >> >> This was a pleasant surprise to me because Canek posted not long ago >> that openrc is now incompatible with systemd. > > I'm pretty sure I never said such thing. Both sys-apps/systemd and > sys-apps/openrc satisfy virtual/service-manager, so if you installed > systemd, OpenRC was depcleaned some days ago, but since bug 373219[1] > hasn't been closed, they added OpenRC into the @system set, so now > it's not even depcleaned. You can put -*sys-apps/openrc in > /etc/portage/profile/package to solve that. > > No incompatibility, and I never said that. > >> Canek, please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a bit lost in the >> details of the gnome3/systemd update at the moment. > > I believe you can install OpenRC and systemd in parallel without > problems. GNOME 3 will pull systemd when installed, but that doesn't > mean you will need to uninstall OpenRC. However, several GNOME > packages (including gdm, if I'm not mistaken) will fail if not running > with systemd as PID=1. > > I don't know how well it works OpenRC parallel installed with systemd, > I haven't used it in years. > > Regards. > > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219
Canek, Thanks for this information. But what about my original question, namely Can I remove my masks and let gnome-3.8 replace 3.6 (to the extent portage let's it) while I am running openrc and do *not* have systemd installed? thanks, allan

