2013/9/6 Canek Peláez Valdés <[email protected]> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, gevisz <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2013/9/6 gevisz <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >> 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: > >>> > Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, > >>> > Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. > >>> > > >>> > Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window > frame > >>> > from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close > >>> > button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole > >>> > screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. > >>> > > >>> > I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu > but > >>> > somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my > windows > >>> > had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the > >>> > Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( > >>> > > >>> > Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the > >>> > sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons > "out > >>> > of the box" and without recompilation of all the programs that do not > >>> > do > >>> > the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of > >>> > course). > >>> > > >>> > However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the > >>> > moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome > >>> > (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet > >>> > with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). > >>> > > >>> > Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and > >>> > Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. > >>> > >>> > >>> I think the true answer is > >>> > >>> "You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want" > >>> > >>> I'm happy to be proved wrong though. > >>> > >>> If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will > >>> last only a short time. > >>> > >>> Alan McKinnon [email protected] > >>> > >> > >> Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far > >> > >> 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other > >> language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev > >> configs), > >> > >> 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, > >> I can not assign <Win>+<Shift>+<any letter> to any program launcher > >> in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, > >> > >> 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent > >> packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. > >> > >> All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back > >> compared to Gnome 2 > >> (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with > >> Gnome 3 :^), as > >> have not tried it so far). > >> > >> P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can > >> explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, > >> you are welcome. :^) > >> > >> I set up toggling the keyboard layout to <rWin> key in > >> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: > >> > >> Option "XkbOptions" > >> "grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" > >> > >> It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( > >> > >> Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the > >> Xfce panel, > >> but could not find any. > >> > > > > A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not > included in > > the xfce4-meta package > > (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout > > indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, > > I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after > > changing some of the plugin's > > settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. > Interestingly, > > the applet continued to switch > > the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the > > original ones. Magically, the <rWin> > > key also started to switch the keyboard layout. > > > > So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. > > The third one is not > > so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. > > :^) > > > > Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even > more > > informative. :^) > > If you want GNOME 2, you should try MATE. GNOME 2 is unsupported; It's > been years since somebody actually worked on it. Bugs, bitrot and > security vulnerabilities are probably (if not surely) present in the > code base. > > MATE supposedly tries to keep GNOME 2 alive (although its homepage is > down). > -- > Canek Peláez Valdés > Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación > Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México > > But I have not found MATE in portage...
Anyway, it is not so important now, as I have already almost satisfied with my present Xfce setup. Thank you for the reply and have a nice weekend.
