On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 15:25:32 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 11:47:41AM +0000, Mick wrote > > > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 +0000 > > > > > > Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be > > > > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I had > > > > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound. I'm guessing that I > > > > need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk. > > > > > > > > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to > > > > use gstreamer? > > > > > > Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more > > > details; but it is just one small package though. > > > > Sure, today it is just gnome-base, tomorrow I could end up *having* > > to install systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed > > appropriate for your average desktop system. I've masked the two > > you suggested for now. > > The GNOME people have now made dbus a hard-coded dependancy of the > latest gtk+. systemd can't be far behind. I've had dbus masked since > it arrived approximately the same time as HAL. Here's what I get when > trying to update gtk+
I always thought that dbus is useful on a desktop system that is used to run, errm ... applications, and it doesn't violate the *nix design philosophy. As far as I understand it is only trying to be an IPC manager. I seem to recall that Poettering and co tweaked something in libdbus, but my knowledge is quite limited on all things Gnome. Gnome devs decided in late 2012 to *not* make systemd a hard coded dependency, but look where we are now. Without systemd needed/desirable functionality for a Gnome desktop won't work. So, let's say that I tend to be sceptical on what might be used next as the thin end of the wedge. -- Regards, Mick
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