On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:37 PM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman <rich0 <at> gentoo.org> writes: > >> You seem to be wanting a minimalist profile of Gentoo, not CoreOS. > > YES!, I want Gentoo to "CRUSH" CoreOS because we can and our goal is not > to deceptively move users to a "rent the binary" jail. OK? >
Gentoo and CoreOS really target different uses. I certainly could see one being installed more than the other just as there are no doubt more tubes of toothpaste sold in a year than there are iPhones sold in a year (or, at least I hope there are). That doesn't mean that toothpaste is "crushing" the iPhone. This isn't unlike Gentoo vs ChromeOS. You're comparing a general-purpose distro (and one that is even more general-purpose/customizable than a typical one) to a tool made to do exactly one job well. CoreOS is just about hosting containers. Sure, some of those containers might be "rent the binary jails" - but you could run Gentoo in one of those containers just as easily. CoreOS really competes with the likes of VMWare/KVM, or even OpenStack. If you don't want to run a bazillion containers, then sure it isn't something you're going to be interested in. > >> It isn't intended as a starting point for embedded projects or such. >> Sure, maybe you could make it work, but sooner or later CoreOS will >> make some change that will make you very unhappy because they aren't >> making it for you. > > CoreOS will never be in my critical path. Large corporations will turn > computer scientist and hackers into WalMart type-employees. Conglomerates > are the enemy, imho. I fear Conglomerates much more than any group > of government idiots. ymmv. Well, then don't run it! Large corporations are actually the least-progressive when it comes to adopting these kinds of technologies. I actually see thing being embraced by mid-sized companies first. The "new way" of doing these things lets you quickly scale up from development to production without a lot of manual configuration of individual hosts. I work for a big company and they're still doing lots of manual installation scripts that get signed and dated like it is still the 80s. It isn't Walmart-type work primarily because it is so error-prone we always need people to fix all the stuff that breaks. My LUG meets at a mid-sized VoIP company that uses the likes of Puppet/Chef for everything and I'm sure Docker is on their radar as something to think about next - they're hardly robots but they realize that they'd rather have their bright employees doing something other than dealing with botched updates on hosts that bring down 47 VMs at a time. Their customers like that they can just pay them for a VoIP account and get full service for a low cost, versus paying the kid next door to figure out how to custom-rig a PBX for them. And, yes, they use Asterisk. -- Rich
