> On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:47, German <gentger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:33:59 +0000
> Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 06:08:34 -0400, German wrote:
>> 
>>>> Forget about "chmod 770". Better do a "chmod g+rw". :-)  
>>> 
>>> Tried it, it also doesn't stay permanently. OK, no solution :(
>> 
>> The correct solution is a udev rule, but it appears that something may be
>> overriding that when you login.
> 
> I have the same udev rule. Yes, something is overriding it.
> 
> A kludgy solution is to add the chmod
>> command to ~/.bash_profile.

Don't hit your head to a brick wall. A small strace to the login process 
reveals that login set things as you tell it to in /etc/login.defs

In this file change the line:
TTYPERM 0600
To:
TTYPERM 0620

And your problem is fixed.

The problem has nothing to do with udev. If you don't like a volatile /dev just 
remove udev and create everything you wan't by hand (not recommended ;)

Another thing i'm puzzled by is, why do you wan't to login as root and the su 
to someone else? I usually do it the other way around...

-- 
-Matti



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