On 161114-21:49+0000, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Kai Krakow <[email protected]> wrote: > > Am Mon, 14 Nov 2016 09:32:59 +0000 > > >> --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork > >> --print-address 3 > >> 417 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/at-spi2-registryd > ... > I also would love to get rid of dbus, but I suppose something > essential would break. ... > Jorge >
I live without dbus. I've only recently noticed (can't be since long) there is a dbus flag. Find here also my very disliked pulseaudio and policykit flags: https://www.gentoo.org/support/use-flags/ It's been my hard won struggle to rid me of dbus: Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats) https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html I'm linking there because I was on the verge of giving up at one point, and I don't know if you may need to look all the long and gory details, as it wasn't completely easy to rid of dbus then... While it may be now. I decided to go sans-dbus at all costs when I discovered a similar issue like you report in the first main of this thread to which I now participate: [gentoo-user] gnome intrusion? https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/message/4cd394faa9a3749bfc6bafbf6293ceba Have a look: Re: How to avoid stealth installation of systemd? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770&start=45#p552566 pasting parts of what I found, for the lazy: $ ps aux | grep ssh root 2184 0.0 0.0 54976 1004 ? Ss Sep06 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd mr 2447 0.0 0.0 10592 32 ? Ss Sep06 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager mr 15141 0.0 0.0 19980 1796 pts/9 S+ 21:48 0:00 grep ssh $ It was the dbus-launch, it was an encrypted session in my own machine. C'mon??!! Also, I've noticed that our developers are lending an ear to sans-dbus users, as they are getting way more packages then previosly that do not depend in the least on dbus anymore (Firefox, Wireshark, Inkscape ... well I don't use very many packages... Ah, not to forget, Qt5 now does not depend on dbus, or D-Bus, used below...) Ah, I almost forgot. Gentoo is as default (OpenRC) without dbus! Have a look: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems There is no D-Bus under "Main dependencies" for OpenRC (I really like OpenRC...) ( However, the search for newbies, not for someone who knows what (s)he is searching, like me now, is not inclined, if others see what I see when they search wiki, and pasting: openrc init systems in searchbox at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page didn't give me: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems How is that? I had noticed the same not-finding-it for Grsecurity long time ago... ) Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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