On Sunday 26 Mar 2017 09:45:09 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/26/2017 04:28 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Pelican looks interesting; I may follow it up. I didn't say this before
> > (one thing at a time, eh?) but I need to build a site that another
> > choirman can take over from me at some time. That seems to rule out
> > anything that smacks of script writing, because as far as I know,
> > nobody else has the slightest interest in computers, never mind
> > programming.
> > 
> > I notice that no-one has mentioned WordPress. I had a look at it, but
> > was
> > scared off by the Gentoo devs' waving around of garlic and crosses.
> 
> Choosing a CMS is a textbook example of "pick your poison." We usually
> go with either Wordpress or Drupal.
> 
> The design of Drupal is much better, technically. Every feature is part
> of a "module" that you can turn off. The API is well-documented, and
> it's easy to write new modules. A "content type" in Drupal is a thin
> abstraction over a database table, and you can build pretty much
> anything you want by creating the right content type and then creating a
> "view" to display it how you want.
> 
> The end result can be nicer for end users; for example, you can give
> them a button to create a new employee, or a newsletter, or a blog
> entry... and each one of those content types will have separate fields
> and a separate UI. The trade-off is that nothing works out-of-the-box in
> Drupal, and it will take you two weeks to get all of that set up.
> 
> With Wordpress, you get a nice, clean, easy-to-use site in about five
> minutes. If that site will work for you -- i.e. if all you need is
> pages, menu items, a contact form, and whatever else you can get from
> pre-existing plugins -- do that!
> 
> Wordpress is made for non-technical users but I don't mean that in a bad
> way. I've been doing Wordpress updates on some sites for over five
> years, and it's never crashed and made me stop what I was doing to fix
> it. Plugin updates are similarly easy, but I can echo what Mick said:
> you need to pay attention to the update notifications, and they come
> frequently.
> 
> All CMSes have terrible security records, so the fact that Wordpress
> gets hacked all the time shouldn't lead you to believe that another CMS
> would fare any better. You can make any CMS a lot more secure in two
> simple ways:
> 
>    1. Always update ASAP.
>    2. Don't make your website writable by the anonymous web user.
> 
> The second one means that you will have to update over SSH, at least as
> long as you maintain the site, but severely limits the damage that a
> hacker can do with a tiny exploit.

Interesting. Another contributor, another opinion. :-)

I already have books on WordPress and Joomla, and I've just ordered one on 
Drupal. Then I can take my time experimenting and comparing.

Thanks again to all. I'm certainly learning today.

-- 
Regards
Peter


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