On 29/08/2017 18:47, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 28/08/2017 22:20, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote:
>>> |it's not so hard yet, just hard to get by reading it in advance, doing
>>>
>>> it is fairly straight forward. 
>>
>> It only seems like it might be tricky when reading it.
>> Running Gentoo involves steps that you do on almost no other distro, so
>> the words on the web page are unfamiliar.
>>
>> Almost everyone that's done it for the first time in the last 5 years
>> and reported up says "Gee, that wasn't so hard! A lot easier than I ever
>> thought it would be!"
>>
>> It's also very obvious what each step actually did, but you have to do
>> it yourself once - it's obvious in petrospec.
>>
>> Welcome to Gentoo-land. May your stay be long and happy and fruitful.
>>
>> Your next assigned task (to be done sometime in the next year) is to
>> repeat the whole process on a test rig and do it from a stage 1. Like we
>> all did 15 years ago. If serious street cred brownie points is what you
>> are after, that's how you get 'em!
> 
> Nope.  You need to do a stage 1 on nothing newer than a Pentium 3 or 
> equivalent for it to count, run out of compile space on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, 
> reformat and start again.
> 
> For extra street cred you would of course install ~arch and have to work-
> around every darn bug you came across by the n'th time you had to start 
> recompiling from scratch, because both gcc and the profile USE flags changed 
> 3 
> times during the 2 weeks it would invariably take you to finish your install.
> 
> In between all this pain, you may also discover your MoBo would hard lock 
> every time your mismatched RAM modules started paging over to swap ...  O_O
> 
> but after a hard reboot it would be OK until the next big compile.
> 
> I understand this to be an endeavour not dissimilar to climbing Everest 
> during 
> an avalanche.
> 
> PS. Did I mention you would have to do all of the above using a dial-up 
> modem, 
> which would require off-tree modules, because your PC came with a Winmodem?
> 
> PPS. In case you have never been cursed with using a winmodem, check the 2nd 
> bullet point at the bottom of this page:
> 
>  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/winmodem.html
> 


Let's see, the most bottom line stage 1 I ever did was on an AMD athlon
cpu with 512M Ram and an 80G IDE Drive. Didn't have the mobo lockups
tho, but did have the devil's own time fiddling with overclocking and
other goodies in the BIOS. Eventually I just selected "Optimal" and let
them damn thing figure out what it thought was best...

Sadly, I missed the whole winmodem saga and never had a need to use one.
I had a US Robotics 56k dialup modem and in those days almost all mobos
came with serial ports. So I probably got lucky.

there's also the fun and games 20 years before that typing silly games
on a ZX Spectrum, saving to cassette tape and hoping the bloody thing
plays back OK. But that's a whole other story and I'm sure you are not
even vaguely interested :-)

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


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