On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 12:34:03 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote:

> > I've no idea how good systemd is.  It's not been through the normal
> > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have.

What process was that? The one where distro maintainers decide what to
include in *their* distros? Isn't that how all packages, including
systemd, make it into a distro. Debian even had a public debate and vote
on it. You seem to be implying that systemd got into those distros by
some stealth process, maybe a trojan or even osmosis?

> > It was forced on people.

Nothing has been forced on anyone because no one is forced to accept the
distro maintainers chosen defaults.

> > But being forced to have a binary system
> > log, being forced (so I have heard) to have an http server
> > running, ...., doesn't make it an attractive package for me.  
> 
> *All* of this is "so I have heard".  What happened to researching stuff
> as the better alternative to speaking out of your ass?

The systemd debate is different in that instead of fanboys that ignore
the facts, the loudest arguers are a hate club that make up their own
"facts".

I'm amazed that all those developers at Debian, Red Hat, Arch and other
distros ignored all these facts when they are normally so technically
astute. Still, what to experienced developers know when compared to
mailing list and forum posters...


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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