On 01/09/2018 01:56 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday, 8 January 2018 17:47:03 GMT Corbin Bird wrote: >> On 01/07/2018 02:46 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >>> I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone >>> knows as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. >>> >>> It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a >>> problem that was their fault to begin with. >> Do you remember the x87 bugs discovered in the original i586 Pentiums? >> Never fixed. >> Still built into every Intel CPU. >> Intel does NOT replace "defective-by-design" hardware. >> Instead, every OS is required to "software emulate" the FPU. >> >> Search for "errata-not-bug". >> Intel's term for their screw-ups in their CPUs. >> >> Intel is only releasing patch code for the last five years of products. >> >> And ... if you read up on the "e-mails" being posted ... >> ... It looks as if Intel is NOT going to fix this in future CPUs either. >> Instead, every OS will be required to "work-around-this". >> >> Perhaps the reason "someone" tried to implicate this effects ALL CPU >> architectures? >> ( IBM RISC 6000, PowerPC, DEC Alpha, IBM System/390, Sun SPARC64, for >> example ) >> >> Intel did try to make their "patch" mandatory for AMD CPUs ( with NO >> disable switch ). >> Why? >> Think about it. >> >> Corbin > So what affordable and available CPUs should one be looking into for a new > desktop build? > > Also, laptops? >
At this point, the only sure bet, is a non x86, x86_64, ARM, ARM64 CPU. Don't know enough to make a recommendation on a particular CPU arch at this point. Try asking taii...@gmx.com or Ian Zimmerman ( both on gentoo-users mailing list ) about PPC/PPC64. Re-post of saved e-mail : > On 12/25/2017 06:33 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> On 2017-12-24 14:44, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> >>> POWER 9: TALOS 2 (server/workstation, brand new and very high >>> performance - the only brand new hardware that is legitimately libre) >> This is interesting, but can it run gentoo? There's a handbook edition >> for PPC64, but that's not quite the same, is it? > It is. > PPC64 is big endian, PPC64LE is little endian. > > POWER8/9 are Bi-Endian so you can use both (most linux distros only > support little) > > PPC64 compile covers PowerPC and POWER. > > > TALOS 2 is an end user obtainable derivative of the Romulus POWER 9 > development board, there are a variety of modifications and it is more > open source than Romulus - you can also pay for it with bitcoin. > It supports dual sforza CPU's which have up to 24 cores per socket > with SMT4 (4 threads at the same time per core)
