On 2/24/20 5:10 PM, n952162 wrote:

On 2020-02-24 23:00, james wrote:
On 2/24/20 4:33 PM, n952162 wrote:

On 2020-02-24 22:18, james wrote:
On 2/24/20 3:55 PM, n952162 wrote:
what do you see 5G providing that 4G couldn't deliver?

On 2020-02-21 00:38, james wrote:
5G CAN change everything! Gentoo should blaze the open source pathway
of contributions and WE all should dream, build and get control of our
country back!


5G may be our last chance before Satan rules via consolidating all the
large governments! 5G is our last chance, imho, for citizens to get
control of their respective countries back. Stand or die, as the
plagues of the last days, are just around the corner. Gentoo saves the
world? Sound like a good movie for someone to make.....


That is simple and complex.
simple??? more bandwidth, lower latencies in the silicon,
and many advances that are hard to leverage with 4G limitations.


Can you list some examples of these advances, beyond throughput and
latency improvements?

Can, yes. Going to, nope. Things are still 'fluid' even in the standard and rules governing 5G. Right now, ALL are encouraged to experiment and party. The major carriers are moving to drastically limit entrepreneurship in all things 5G.? Just look at the myriad of failures with Verizon. They are the poster-child of way carriers are the last folks on the earth that need to be 'architecting' the furture of 5G.

Not to mention they will sell out any country, in a heartbeat.


5G is from the 3gpp organization, which is basically a European organization.? Who cares about Verizon?? CDMA - America's attempt to answer 3gpp -? was a bust.? If by /drastically/ "limit entrepreneurship", you mean to open access to the network (as opposed to using it as a (rented) utensil), then I can only wonder who you are.




"James" is my moniker, look through the gentoo records.

I disagree. I know a few savant EEs that are building the chip sets. 5G is more about what is inside the gallium Arsenide. What you allude to is the 'cover story' of what 5G is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium_arsenide


5G is much more about what's inside the chip sets, as opposed to government edicts. That's why the USA woke up and said no to china, selling 5G chip sets in the USA. Folks are building processors and memory inside the Gallium Arsenide. Surely France and Germany have GA chipset capabilities as do China, Russia and others.


So now it seems that the Co-founder of Mirantis Boris Renski is all about open source, 5G:

"Mirantis co-founder to create open-source 5G startup"


https://www.zdnet.com/article/mirantis-co-founder-leaves-to-create-open-source-5g-startup/


More folks are getting the 5G 'shared bandwidth' concept:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/shared-spectrum-whats-next-and-why-it-matters-for-businesses/

So gentoo will have reference codes to include in gentoo-arm buildouts?


"But, now that the FCC has opened up the 3.5 GHz Citizens Broadband Radio Service (CBRS) band, there's room for new open-source based companies to offer 4G LTE and eventually 5G voice and data. Renski will be one of its pioneers."


All I'm trying to say, is this. GENTOO has numerous trees/stacks running on arm, as arm is the basis processor for most cell phones, currently. (embedded gentoo). I'm excited about gentoo pushing a cell phone stack out, even it's clandestinely called another distro, leveraging the Gentoo codes, ebuilds and low level stacks.... OUR community is awesome!


I'm just not convinced that our USA government continuing to "sell bandwidth rights", is constitutional?


So Bandwidth utilization efficiencies would skyrocket, already mathematically proven and via numerous studies and tests, if the bandwidth was 'open' to all legal and non-nefarious communications companies and their visionary activities. 5G is the tech battleground, of this decade, imho. 5G can ignite a commercial resonance here in the USA, and elsewhere, if allowed to be opened up to startups. Selling bandwidth to companies like Verizon, is a very, very bad idea. WE can reverse this selling of RF frequency domain space, very very easily.
Technically, it's a done deal. Financially and legally,
it's going to take a constitutional amendment, to get it to 'stick'.


A myriad of small companies, could easily figure out how to offer cost-effective communications, if allowed to compete. High prices of limited RF spectrum is a massive cost-barrier-to-entry. Very-Large Mega corps, just stick their hand out to the government, requiring ever increasing sums of money, just to pretend to be offering real communications solutions. The government needs to start fining large corporations for security breaches, and limiting their rights to build/sell more services, until they are proven to be secure. Why do you think that MS windows continues to suck at security? Much more money, as they see the lack of security, as a cash-cow.


I'd just like to see (maybe several) gentoo centric stacks, that support 5G and the myriad of yet-to-be-disclosed hardware features. I'll bet that would bring in many new astute coders into the gentoo fold. ymmv.


sincerely,
James

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