On Friday, 12 June 2020 15:00:25 BST Jack wrote: > On 6/12/20 9:49 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 4:00 AM n952162 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 2020-06-12 08:40, n952162 wrote: > >>>> BTW, is it becoming clear why it is best to update Gentoo at least > >>>> ever few months? :) > >>> > >>> Well, yes, but it's really pretty onerous. If you have gentoo in > >>> embedded systems, you've got to spend considerable administrative effort > >>> in each one just maintaining the status quo. > >>> > >>> I mean, there's no competition to gentoo, of course. But a design goal > >>> could be to have a one-step sync, of some sort. > >> > >> Maybe one way to work in that direction would be to have regular - say, > >> yearly - "releases", kind of like other distributions do, but on an > >> ebuild basis, re-establishing a common base point. > > > > Well, you already can just use a snapshot of the repository from any > > date in time, though things like patches might not be mirrored any > > longer so that isn't a perfect solution. > > > > Ultimately if there was enough interest in something like this the > > solution would probably be another distro that just repackages Gentoo > > in a release-based format. Release-based distros have their pros and > > cons, but they're definitely a better fit for some problems. > > > > One of the issues with Gentoo is that it is fairly niche and so you > > don't have the manpower to support 47 forks. With Debian you have a > > bazillion derivatives - half of them are just bundling a different set > > of default packages. Ubuntu has a Desktop and Server version of the > > distro, and they also have flavors for various desktop environments. > > Gentoo basically has just barely enough manpower to support having > > Gentoo. We try to accommodate as much choice as possible in how it > > gets used which is why this model works as well as it does. However, > > we can't support having a Gentoo flavor that is GPL-only, or GPL-free, > > or FOSS-only, or no-systemd-in-the-repo, or initial install optimized > > for people who read braille. You can actually tailor Gentoo towards > > just about any of those directions with some config file tweaks, but > > you can't just pick the one of 300 iso images that most closely fit > > your needs and run the autoinstaller and forget about it. > > What about some sort of tagging? Not bundling or packaging, just > occasional (quarterly?) labels, with a matrix indicating how difficult > it would be to upgrade. A hint to folks who tend to update less often > than they should. A "heads up" that things added or upgraded in the > past quarter are going to be very difficult to do if you are starting > with something more than three/five/...? quarters older than that. Of > course, I suppose if you read the news items as they are released, then > you should have a pretty good idea of which of them are likely to bite > you if you wait too long.
Perhaps I misunderstand this, but isn't it as simple as booting off a LiveCD/ USB, chrooting, changing profiles, cleaning up world file and letting rip with a full 'emerge -e' @system, followed by @world for good measure?
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