On 20/08/2020 18:16, Jack wrote:
>> From what I read, there is much enthusiasm  for Claws/Evolution.
>>
>> Sadly, this direct comparison, seems out of date and does not include
>> TB-78, but it is the most comprehensive comparison I have found. A
>> direct comparison, that is up to date, would be very cool, imho:
>>
>> https://appmus.com/vs/mozilla-thunderbird-vs-evolution
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://www.techradar.com/best/best-email-clients#best-free-email-clients
> This list is pretty unimpressive.  Most of their "free" offers aren't. 
> Their description of Gmail doesn't even mention free use, that I can
> see.  Then they include Slack - and the main negative is "no email."  In
> addition, especially for gmail, it's not really an email "client,"  it's
> an email service with web interface.  I certainly don't call that an
> email client.  Am I just too old?

I completely agree. Unfortunately, I think it's a sad state of affairs
wrt mail clients these days.

I tried many of the open-source ones such as TB, Evolution, Claws Mail,
Geary, and KMail. While there is a lot of personal preferences when it
comes to choice, it seems neither of these can get a few simple things
I'm personally looking for into a single package:

- stand-alone configuration:
  being able to rsync "~/.client" or "~/.config/client" across multiple
  machines or through a decent export/import functionality is rather
  critical when working from different machines. Not a fan of KDE's
  Akonadi, though I appreciate what it tries to do as a whole.

- decent PGP support:
  In particular, being able to (re) encrypt existing and unencrypted
  emails either on-demand, en-masse via filter, or automatically upon
  receipt of a new one. All the above clients fail this point for
  different reasons.

- No Gnome 3-like BS interface [luckily most satisfy this]:
  Gnome 3's "simplicity" is not only ugly but also utterly
  dysfunctional. When I see an application utilising Gnome 3 conventions
  for UI design it leaves my drive faster than the speed of light (it
  seems things can indeed travel faster in such cases)

- Conversation view [none have that]
  It may seem silly and it's certainly a personal preference, but
  GMail's conversation view is incredibly useful to me. None of the
  above are capable of combining sent and received mail in correct order
  with the option to either scroll through to the end or collapse
  individual emails. Yes, threaded mail is similar and is better than
  nothing but it's not the same. Though TB's threading often breaks and
  requires a folder rebuild to get it right.

So I keep reverting to TB whose main drawback for me so far has been the
PGP support. I hope TB 78 resolves this, but I'm not fond at all of the
approach they have taken to ditch external tools (i.e. GnuPG) in favour
of a built-in separate key management tool.

If anyone has been able to successfully achieve the PGP point,
preferably with TB/Enigmail or KMail, I would be very grateful for some
input.

- V

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