I agree with all of mjo's points below.

Nodejs is so bad that I don't think its worth investing
your effort into it. There is really very little hope
of fixing their crap. This is a case of its not
you, its them.

But if you do manage to get some sanity into this craziness
I might just try nodejs someday <3

Best of luck,
Aisha

On 1/31/21 7:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-01-31 at 18:42 -0500, Andrew Udvare wrote:
>>
>> Our best option is to treat Nodejs stuff the way we treat Rust and Go
>> packages. Pretend Nodejs 'binaries' are 'built' statically and
>> therefore, grab all the dependencies in the main package ebuild.
> 
> The only thing a package manager does for you is that it allows one
> person (the Gentoo developer, in this case) to invest a little bit of
> time to save everyone else (the Gentoo users) a lot of time. When
> software has been packaged correctly, it integrates well with the rest
> of the system, gets constant maintenance and security updates, and can
> be managed from a central location in a consistent manner.
> 
> "Packaging" software like you describe isn't packaging it in this
> sense. When you bundle everything together,
> 
>   1. Nothing is shared between packages so build time and disk 
>      usage skyrockets.
> 
>   2. The number of updates and thus the amount of work required
>    
>  also skyrockets, for the same reason: when nothing is shared, you 
>    
>  have to update each package whenever a dependency of a dependency 
>    
>  of a dependency... changes.
> 
>   3. There are no security updates, ever. If you use anything written 
>      in Rust or Go on Gentoo, or if you use anything that uses 
>      anything written in Rust or Go, or..... it will NEVER get a 
>      security update. No one even bothers looking for security
>      issues in these languages because the "find a bug then fix it"
>      algorithm is infeasible.
> 
>   4. You do get to do updates with e.g. "emerge -puDN @world", but not 
>      really, because no one is actually updating Gentoo packages every 
>      time a dependency of a dependency changes.
> 
> So ultimately, there's little benefit and it introduces security
> vulnerabilities to our users who might be better off just using NPM or
> whatever (or using software written in a sane language).
> 
> 
> 


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