On 13/05/2022 15:43, Michael wrote:
On Friday, 13 May 2022 09:39:51 BST Philip Webb wrote:
Thanks for the detailed advice, esp Frank + Dale + also Wols + Perkins.
These are my proposed parts for ANB6, wh I will buy from Canada Computers ;
prices are in CAD, of course ; a few further comments from me below :
CPU : AMD : CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : 8-core 16-thread : $ 388
Socket AM4 : 3,8 / 4,6 GHz : Radeon Graphix Wreath Stealth
Mobo : MBGIG00145 : Gigabyte : X570 Aorus elite WIFI : $ 220
dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 : Intel dual-band 802.11ac wireless
front USB Type C : RGB Fusion 2.0
Memory : MEKIT00523 : Kingston Fury Beast : 2 x 16 GB : DDR4 3200 MHz : $
160
SSD : SSKIT00120 : Kingston KC3000 : 1 TB : PCIe Gen4 : NVMe M.2
R 7000 MB/s ; W 6000 MB/s : $ 190
HDD : HDSEA00016 : Seagate IronWolf : 4 TB : CMR :
SATA 6 Gb/s : 5900 RPM : 64 MB Cache : 3 Yr Warranty : $ 110
I'd also look at adding a Toshiba N300 to that, again CMR, again
raid-good, and you can mirror them. It'll double read speed as soon as
you need to read much from disk. And if you want reliability or more
disk space you can then easily upgrade that to raid-5 or -6 with another
(couple of) drives.
Case : CSDCL00015 : Deepcool D-Shield V2 ATX : Compact Mid Tower Case : $ 60
CSDCL00019 : Deepcool E-Shield : Mid Tower Chassis,
Black, Tempered Glass, 120mm Fan, Radiator Support,
E-ATX/ATX/MicroATX/MiniITX : $ 60
Power : PSTHL00007 : Thermaltake Smart White : 700 W
80 PLUS Certified Power Supply : $ 80 [[ total $ 1268 ]]
Comments : the machine is intended to last 7 years ,
so I'm going for more power + speed than I'm likely to use today ;
of course, I don't want to waste CAD, but will pay more for better value ;
I don't do gaming, but I do need a powerful machine for Gentoo compiling.
CPU : based on Frank's recommendation ; I prefer AMD.
Mobo : Canada Computers say this is often bought with the CPU ;
my present machine (ANB5) has a Gigabyte mobo, as has its predecessor ;
it says it can support PCIe 4.0, which matches the SSD ;
I'ld like to have WIFI available, tho' I may carry on with landline.
Memory : the mobo will accept 32 GB sticks, but I don't need them ;
I've had good experiences with Kingston.
SSD : PCIe 4 is much faster than PCI 3 ; 1 TB is enough.
HDD : I heard the warnings & this is CMR ;
I also heard Frank's advice re spin-speed : this is lower.
Case : I'm inclined to get '19',
but wonder if there's a serious diffence between 'ATX' vs 'ATXe' :
any advice wb welcome.
Power : the summary says "700 W", but the specs say "500 W" :
the price is a bit more than others which are 500 W
& I can ask in the store, so I'm willing to assume "500" is a typo.
Any further advice wb very welcome (smile to everyone).
I'd try to max out memory, because more will soon be better if historical
trends will continue to be observed. You need ~2G per thread on a big compile
at present. If you're also running VMs or RAM intensive apps at the same
time, you soon regret not having more RAM. I'd also spend more money for RAM
of arguably better quality like these, which could also allow you to increase
their voltage a touch:
Yup. 2x32GB sticks. That's what my current box has and it absolutely
flies once it's cached everything in memory. Last I knew, prices had
crashed. I think I paid LESS for my 2x32 than I paid for 1x16 for this
same computer in its previous (mismatched CPU and mobo) configuration.
http://www.gskill.com
I'm no serial builder and I tend to build desktops which last a decade or
more. Therefore I do not penny-pinch on PSU, RAM, cooling, in that order. On
the CPU/APU, I'll buy an AMD on the sweet-spot between performance and price
depreciation.
Same. Although I use stock cooling because that's "good enough" for a
system you don't intend to hammer. I call that sweet spot "the
coke/champagne switch", is pricing dominated by materials/transport, or
by capacity/R&D costs.
Cheers,
Wol
