J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 9:07:41 PM CEST Dale wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 12:44:11 AM CEST Dale wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> With my new fiber internet, my poor disks are getting a work out, and
>>>> also filling up.  First casualty, my backup disk.  I have one directory
>>>> that is . . . well . . . huge.  It's about 7TBs or so.  This is where it
>>>> is right now and it's still trying to pack in files.
>>>>
>>>> /dev/mapper/8tb            7.3T  7.1T  201G  98% /mnt/8tb
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>>> Thoughts?  Ideas?
>>> Plenty, see below:
>>>
>>> For backups to external disks, I would recommend having a look at "dar" :
>>> $ eix -e dar
>>> * app-backup/dar
>>>
>>>      Available versions:  2.7.6^t ~2.7.7^t {argon2 curl dar32 dar64 doc
>>>      gcrypt
>>>
>>> gpg lz4 lzo nls rsync threads xattr}
>>>
>>>      Homepage:            http://dar.linux.free.fr/
>>>      Description:         A full featured backup tool, aimed for disks
>>>
>>> It's been around for a while and the developer is active and responds
>>> quite
>>> well to questions.
>>> It supports compression (different compression methods), incremental
>>> backups (only need a catalogue of the previous backup for the
>>> incremental) and encryption.
>>>
>>> The NAS options others mentioned would also work as they can compress data
>>> on disk and you'd only notice a delay in writing/reading (depending on
>>> the compression method used). I would recommend using one that uses ZFS
>>> on-disk as it's more reliable and robust then BTRFS.
>>>
>>> One option that comes available for you now that you are no longer limited
>>> to slow ADSL: Cloud backups.
>>>
>>> I use Backblaze (B2) to store compressed backups that haven't been stored
>>> on tape to off-site locations.
>>>
>>> But, you can also encrypt the backups locally and store the
>>> encrypted+compressed backupfiles on other cloud storage.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>> Dar does sound interesting.  It sounds a lot like what I used way back
>> in the 90's.  I'm sure it is different software but could work on
>> floppies then like it does on USB sticks etc today.  Same principal. 
> If it was during the 90's, then it wasn't. First version was released in 2002.
>
>> I looked into ZFS as well.  Google helped me find a interesting page.  I
>> notice it is also used on some NAS setups as well.  It seems to be
>> advanced and maintained well.  It sounds a little like LVM but may have
>> more features, such as compression maybe?  I haven't read that far yet. 
>> I notice it mentions snapshots which LVM also uses. 
> ZFS does a lot more then just LVM+Ext4. But it really needs multiple disks 
> for 
> all the anti-corruption features as well.
>
>> Getting plenty of ideas.  I just wish I had a separate building to put a
>> NAS in that would be safe and climate controlled.  I got a out building
>> but it gets plenty hot in the summer.  No A/C or anything.  I only heat
>> it enough to prevent freezing but computers would likely like that anyway. 
> If you can keep it between optimal temperatures (and stable) the NAS should 
> manage. There is NO need to keep it at 18C (like some places do).
>
> Also, consider a small AC unit that only cools a small box big enough for the 
> NAS. No need to cool an entire room.
>
> --
> Joost

If I built a NAS with a Raspberry Pi thing, it would be small enough
that I could just add a handle to it.  Then I could bring it in the
house, do backups and such and then store it in a out building away from
the house.  If I had a climate controlled outbuilding, I could either
run a ethernet cable or use wireless to do backups.  Of course, all this
costs money as does anything I need to do.  :/ 

I did check the price of a Raspberry Pi thingy a couple weeks ago. 
About $150 to $200 would likely get it off to a good start. It's not bad
really but that is a chunk of change.  I was actually looking into that
to run my VPN thing on.  Still thinking on that. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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