Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:13 PM Wol <antli...@youngman.org.uk > <mailto:antli...@youngman.org.uk>> wrote: > > > > On 12/11/2022 18:22, Dale wrote: > > > Where does one go for a list of the LTS kernels? Since I reboot so > > > rarely, what not use one of them?? Of course, the kernel I have > in use > > > now has long uptimes so it is sort of LTS for this rig anyway. > > > > Do you REALLY want an LTS kernel? Sounds like you don't. You need to > > update them just as much as any other kernel. > > > > The point of an LTS kernel is it supposed to NOT receive feature > > updates, just bug fixes. Given that Artificial Stupidity bots regularly > > try to apply updates to stable kernels, is it worth restricting yourself > > to old kernels? Especially when it's not unknown for a bot to try to > > backport a patch from kernel X+2, when it depends on a patch from X+1 > > that hasn't been backported, and anybody using that code finds their > > "stable" kernel blowing up in their face. > > > > The idea behind stable kernels is great. The implementation leaves a lot > > to be desired and, as always, the reason is not enough manpower. > > > > Cheers, > > Wol > > Wol, > While I don't completely disagree with your technical points I > really don't think your assessment of the purpose of a LTS kernel > is wide ranging enough. > > I do agree that from what I know of Dale's usage he probably > doesn't NEED a long term support kernel, but he may be better > off with one. > > If you are user of apps you pay for - in my case Mixbus - an paid > version of Ardour - and PixInsight then you are not going to get > much support if you're off in the weeds running Gentoo and/or > leading edge kernels. I run Kubuntu now, but not because I think > it's a better distro, but because I get support. Harrison does all > the dirty work on the audio stack and Pleiades Astro basically > says you're on your own running unless you are on just a couple of > distros. They were no help when I ran Gentoo. They are great > under Kubuntu. > > An additional point is that if Dale limits himself to an LTS > kernel then he doesn't have to worry about changes to his > tool chain. I'm just waiting for the day that Rust becomes > a driving conversation point on this list. I don't think Dale > wants or needs to be involved in that. > > Anyway, just my point of view. > > Best wishes, > Mark
Usually, I try to update about once a year. I don't change hardware much. I do plan to get a PCI SATA card with more ports later on but still, I don't change hardware a whole lot. Maybe a LTS isn't for me. I was just curious if I would benefit from using one since I don't upgrade much and the kernels I run, run for months without problems. So to me, they are rock stable. This is from uprecords, just the first seven entries. 1 303 days, 11:46:23 | Linux 4.5.2-gentoo Sat Jul 29 23:20:27 2017 2 227 days, 22:10:30 | Linux 5.6.7-gentoo Wed Oct 28 13:59:36 2020 3 200 days, 06:51:46 | Linux 4.18.12-gentoo Sat Jan 12 03:42:55 2019 4 193 days, 09:28:37 | Linux 3.5.3-gentoo Sat Sep 22 07:50:38 2012 5 184 days, 15:47:57 | Linux 3.18.7-gentoo Tue Dec 15 21:53:59 2015 6 166 days, 20:47:12 | Linux 5.6.7-gentoo Thu May 14 00:47:09 2020 7 147 days, 10:32:02 | Linux 5.14.15-gentoo Sun Feb 13 01:09:41 2022 My current kernel is on the bottom. With hard drive changes, I been rebooting more often than usual. Still, 147 days is pretty stable. :-D It was just a thought. Maybe not even a good one. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
