Javier Martinez <[email protected]> writes:
Let's play urbanterror online. Can you?, and openarena?
And warzone2100?. Well something easier, pokerth. Or one chess
game,
what about xboard?
Well, for a start, i'm basically not a gamer. :-) But throughout
this discussion, my point has been that for some people, such as
myself, Wayland is 'ready' enough; but for other people, it's
not. i've not only mentioned The GIMP 2.x series as software that
doesn't work directly on Wayland, and raised KiCAD as another
possible example (because i think i've seen it come up on the
Gentoo forums in this context). And indeed, i'm sure that they're
far from the only examples.
As far as i'm concerned, Wayland is definitely not ready for
everyone. There are a lot of people who still need Xorg, and for
whom that won't change for a while yet. But not being ready for
_everyone_ is not the same as not being ready for _anyone_.
The things i mentioned in my previous post were literally the only
things running on my desktop at the time of my post. Yes, i do run
various other things at various times, such as Easy Effects,
pavucontrol, Inkscape, Scribus. But The GIMP stands out for me as
one of the few programs _i_ regularly use that still needs
Xwayland. i do a lot of other stuff in the terminal, or in Emacs
(such as programming, documentation preparation, email, etc.).
Are my software pattern usages unusual? Perhaps. But i know i do
regularly encounter people online for whom Wayland does what they
need, just as i regularly encounter people for whom Wayland
_doesn't_ do what they need (and for all i know, may never do).
i first checked out Wayland some years ago, when i was using
Void. i just couldn't get it to work satisfactorily for me
then. It wasn't ready for my use-case. It was more recently that i
decided to check it out again. i found it was now ready for my
use-case. But i'm very aware that there are many people for whom
it is definitely not ready, such as the blind person whose blog
post i referenced up-thread.
Me saying "Wayland is ready for my use case" doesn't mean i think
Xorg should die. Far from it. i hope that enough people stand up
to volunteer to help maintain and improve Xorg and its derivatives
that it can continue to exist indefinitely.
Alexis.
