Mariusz Pękala schreef:
> On 2006-01-07 20:01:25 +0100 (Sat, Jan), Holly Bostick wrote:
> 
>> Willie Wong schreef:
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 04:17:11PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly 
>>> Bostick squawked:
>>> 
>>>> (how do you get ls to also include the @#$%#$ *year*??)
>>> 
>>> Sorry, couldn't help with the rest of your problem, but I think 
>>> it is assumed that ls will display the year only for files older 
>>> than a year old. Quite clever, in my opinion.
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> But even leaving aside the inconsistencies (only for the purposes 
>> of this discussion), this is not the behaviour I expect or in fact 
>> desire. I normally expect the year to be displayed whenever the 
>> current calendar year is different from that associated with the 
>> file
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> Rather than go off on a rant, I will ask mildly: is there any way 
>> to change the default behaviour to more reflect my expected 
>> behaviour?
> 
> info ls, section * Formatting file timestamps::


A-HA!!!! The 'Info' command, which I also always forget, not least
because I don't know how to navigate info files.

But this caused me to take another whack at it, and I got along well
enough to find a mostly acceptable way to reform the "la" alias to the
following:

alias la="ls --color -lAGbh --time-style='+%b %d %Y %H:%M'"

which produces

zo 01/08/06 02:25
~/docs
motub -> la
totaal 3,7M
-rw-r--r--   1 motub 1,3M okt 18 2005 20:17 autosc102.exe
drwxr-xr-x   6 motub  192 okt 30 2005 15:25 books
-r-xr-xr-x   1 motub 2,8K jan 27 2003 01:05 Buddies.xml
drwxrwxr-x   2 motub 1,2K jan 06 2006 22:42 cmds
-rw-rw-r--   1 motub  581 jan 31 2005 15:36 computeruniverse_rma.txt
drwxrwxr-x   5 motub 3,2K nov 21 2005 16:55 config
-rw-rw-r--   1 motub 3,9K nov 03 2004 19:18 depclean_data.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 motub  204 sep 27 2005 17:40 general_cvs.txt
drwxrwxr-x   3 motub 1,4K sep 06 2005 23:23 hardware_man
drwxrwxr-x  10 motub  528 apr 26 2005 01:30 +hb_pers
drwxrwxr-x   6 motub 3,4K apr 26 2005 01:29 infodocs
-rw-rw-r--   1 motub   56 nov 03 2004 15:47 install_notes.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 motub  98K okt 18 2005 20:17 Manual.pdf
drwxrwxr-x   2 motub  240 sep 04 2005 17:45 misc
drwxrwxr-x   3 motub 1,3K dec 09 2005 21:46 miscpost
drwxrwxr-x   8 motub 5,7K mei 29 2005 16:32 misctech
-rw-r--r--   1 motub 1,7K jul 13 2005 13:52 more_what\ works.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 motub 1,4K jul 02 2005 02:24 more_what\ works.txt~
drwxrwxr-x   2 motub 3,3K okt 19 2005 01:38 my_scripts
-rw-r--r--   1 motub  262 okt 04 2005 17:03 new_wine_install_notes.txt
-rwxrwxr-x   1 motub 2,6K jul 01 2004 20:28 nfo.nfo
drwxrwxr-x   2 motub 2,3K dec 24 2005 15:42 output
-rw-rw-r--   1 motub 5,3K nov 06 2004 02:48 readme-queen.txt
-rw-rw-r--   1 motub  50K nov 06 2004 02:48 README-scummvm.txt
drwxr-xr--   2 motub  120 okt 18 2005 20:41 registry
drwx------   2 motub  112 jun 15 2005 14:55 .Trash-motub
-rw-r--r--   1 motub  74K jun 16 2005 17:24 what_works.html

which is much more informative for me with 1) the group names removed
and 2) a more comprehensive and comprehensible date and size display.
Don't think I really need the inodes (if that's what they are, I
couldn't quite deciper info ls that far) before the owner name, but I
can live with that. The output doesn't even wrap in T-bird anymore, it's
so compact :D .

Anyway, not quite what I asked for, but it will definitely do. And I
kinda learned how to use info.

Thanks for all the help!

Holly
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