On Wednesday 18 January 2006 03:08, Holly Bostick wrote:

>
> About all I can ask at this point is:
>
> 1) what version of Mozilla are you using? What are your USE flags for
> your installation? Have you checked b.g.o or mozillazine
> (http://www.mozillazine.org/ ) to see if this is perhaps a known bug of
> your version of Mozilla? Have you tried upgrading (maybe it's a bug
> that's fixed in later versions)?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -pv mozilla

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2  +crypt -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java 
+ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft 
-mozsvg -postgres +ssl +truetype -xinerama +xprint 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ #


>
> 2) If you go to Edit=>Preferences=>Account Preferences=>Outgoing server
> (SMTP), is there more than one server listed, and is your ISP's server
> selected as "standard"? Like Iain, I had similar problems (a long time
> ago) when attempting to send mail via my home ISP from work, where we
> had a different ISP, which wouldn't work because I was logged into my
> work's mail server (of course), and not my home ISP's SMTP server, so my
> home ISP wasn't going to send my mail, since I wasn't an authorized user
> (not logged in). It's hard to believe that there isn't *some* problem
> with your SMTP settings that we're missing, though there is no error to
> be seen, and of course KMail is presumably set the same way, and *that*
> works....


Well, Mozilla won't even open now.  I do have it set up the same as Kmail 
though.  Just to make sure it was not a corrupt file or something, I created 
a brand new user and set it up.  Same error.  Kmail worked though.  


>
> 3) I'm wondering if this isn't a Mozilla problem; very curious as to
> whether Thunderbird would exhibit it as well. If you want to try it, you
> can use the same mail folders and settings as Mozilla, which I can
> quickly tell you how to set up (it's like 5 steps, if T-bird doesn't
> just offer to import the Mozilla settings for you) if you decide to try
> it. Also curious as to whether there's *any difference whatsoever*
> between your KMail settings and your Mozilla settings (yes, it's
> fine-toothed-comb time).


They are the same as far as email goes.  Mozilla worked for a good while until 
all this started.


>
> 4) I'm also wondering if this is a "local" problem (to a specific
> "outside" address), or a "general" problem (to any outside address).
> Have you tested mail to  multiple/different outside addresses, or just
> one? If just one, maybe that one is the problem. You can send me a test
> mail; I'm certainly outside your local network :-) .

I can not send email to anyone without exceedtech.net on the end.  My brother 
has a Bell South account and it won't go.  I have two Yahoo accounts, 
nothing.  I have a couple friends on other ISPs, lady friends LOL, and they 
are no go either.  Is it OK if I try to find someone to put up with me?  O_O  
It gets lonely with me, three servers and my broke desktop.  
>
> 5) It's a long shot, but is there any possibility that you're sending to
> an outside address to which your ISP will *not* relay, i.e. someplace
> that *cough* Homeland Security doesn't want you writing to (maybe you
> have a relative in the service, I don't know)? If there are such domains
> (and I'm sure there are), it's within the (distant, we hope) realm of
> possiblility that
> your ISP is being excessively cautious in order to avoid any spotlight
> of investigation falling on them.


Who me??  LOL  Most of them are within 300 miles of me.  The closest, I can 
use two cans and a piece of string.  My brother lives next door, country 
speaking for about ~700' away.


>
> 6) I don't know much (all right, anything) about sending command-line
> mail, but there must be a way to get a "traceroute" of a mail. Maybe
> somebody here knows how we could get some useful output about what
> happens when this mail pretends to relay itself for some reason.

I sent a ethreal thing to two people.  Maybe they went to bed.  ;-)  It is 
long so I don't want to put it on here.  This is one line though.

No.     Time        Source                Destination           Protocol Info
     15 8.045041    65.116.46.23          4.253.131.84          SMTP     
Response: 550 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<dot>com>... Relaying denied


I put in the <dot> in the address.  That's my spaming email address at Yahoo, 
well, one of them.  


>
> That's a good idea. No matter what your ISP says, it still could be
> something fishy with them (Customer Service isn't always told every
> little detail about what's going on with the service, and they can't
> help you solve a problem they don't know about).
>
> HTH,
> Holly

I actually sent a email to the owner.  No idea and nobody else is having this 
trouble.  I don't think they would lie to me.  When they have problems with 
connections, they usually call and get me to try it.  Since Linux keeps 
better logs and all.  I have helped them a few times.  I also got them to set 
up a new account, same thing there.

OK.  I have messed with this long enough for now.  I have to take a nap.  If 
you all don't have a better plan, I'm starting a fresh install and keeping 
the old gcc, the old KDE 3.4 and my trusty old kernel.  When I changed those, 
the crap hit the fan, pretty soon after.

Don't burn up any gears, just help me fix this.  :-{

Thanks
Dale
:-)

Oh, I can't get the nvidia drivers to work on the new install either.  It 
loads the module but the GUI won't start when I change the xorg file.  I'm 
not sure what to make of that either.  I did recompile the kernel with the 
new gcc too.  That got me to where I could load the module.
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