On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 22:08 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Being the thread owner so to speak, I'd like to ask something of you
> here. The converse of your question. How is it good.
--deep catches dependencies of dependencies.
>
> Can't speak for Hermman of course but I think he was suggesting that
> somewhere `Deep' in the dependancies of something things got tangled
> up and caused something to bread that has bearing on my `slow redraw'
> problem ending up with a need to revdep-rebuild to find the problems.
I manually re-emerge any packages identified by
emerge -av --depclean
and then I fix whatever
revdep-rebuild -av
complains about. I do this after deep updates (usually). I have not run
into package dependency-related problems.
>
> I still haven't seen what is at the root of my redraw problem and
> haven't really heard any advice about how to debug it further.
>
> I would like to hear both sides of this since you both are obviously
> quite knowledgale about how gentoo works
>
> > I *always* use --deep when upgrading because then I am assured of
> > getting *all* of the dependencies of packages I am emerging. I am not
> > aware of *ever* having system problems due to using --deep. How do you
> > prevent packages from being installed that are missing dependencies?
>
> I have been using --deep as a matter of course when upgrading and I
> can say I have had system problems *absolutely every time* I've
> upgraded. And (Embarrassing given the sad state of my skill level)
> but I've been running gentoo for something like 2 or more years .
>
> I don't know if the problems I've had are attributable to --deep in
> any way, but I can say its likey to be at least in part due to ill
> informed bumbling on my part.
>
> The problems haven't always been big ones but there have always been
> some requiring me to post here for advice. Many were about the
> tangled web of kde dependancies.
I do not see this and I have kde-meta installed.
>
> How would you recognize that a system problem was or was not
> attributable to `--deep'? Also isn't emerge supposed to find
> dependancies as a default behavior?
See above.
>
> In particular how can we determine what is wrong in my system causing
> the slow redrawing of windows and slow scrolling. Its getting
> annoying enough that I'm thinkin about trashing this install and going
> back to a stage install from snapshots and see if I still get this
> slow redraw.
I ran glxgears recently, and I was shocked to see how slowly they
turned. (I'm getting ~500 FPS.) I remember the gears turning much, much
faster. Perhaps my upgrade to xorg 7.0 has something to do with it.
But, regardless, I don't think slow GLX is due to emerging problems
caused by using --deep. I may have misconfigured a package, or
installed something that I shouldn't, but my dependencies are not out of
whack.
>
> The revdep-rebuild that Hermman suggested did find problems with gcc
> that I fixed by re emerging it with USE="-gcj". But apparently this
> is not related to `slow redraw'.
>
--- Vladimir
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