Hi, James Ausmus wrote: > On 6/30/06, Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Daniel da Veiga wrote: > <snip> >> Hi, >> Don't wanna say anything, but all of you could just search -dev >> ML-archives. There are two alternate package-managers in development. >> Some sparks about dev/user overlays,sunrise-overlay,GWN etc. etc. >> Not seen such turmoil in latest 3 years (and IMHO most things are >> personal). No flames intended, just info. >> Rumen > > So, one thing that people seem to forget when they see a lot of > "conflict" going on in situations like these - it's almost always > (unless it gets *too* out of hand) a Good Thing. The fact that there > is a large group of developers and users that are willing to go > through the effort to have such discussions mean that they care *a > lot* about Gentoo and Gentoo's future. The fact that these things can > sometimes get a little heated encourages me even more - it means that > these people are *extremely* passionate about Gentoo, and Gentoo's > success! If you go through these recent "hot" discussions and > generalize them, here's pretty much what the theme is *every* time: > Agreed. > Person A: I have this great, cool, new, awesome idea that I want to > implement to make Gentoo a Better Thing! > Person B: OK - cool idea! However, I am concerned that by implementing > that Shiny New Idea, you make areas X and Y worse! > Person A & B: OK, lets see if we can fix this together. > > OK, so, a lot of time, people who make developers are *not* people who > make good communicators, good mediators, etc. etc., so sometimes the > interactions don't go down *quite* as nicely as that. ;) > So i hope *everybody* will learn something out of this. There's *always* place for improvement ;) > However, when you're reading the discussions, always keep this in > mind: These people are donating their time, brain power, effort, and > life. Due to the moderately high barrier to entry of becoming an > actual Dev (the reading, testing, mentoring, etc.), you can be pretty > damn sure that these people aren't here just to screw everyone else > over, or to screw Gentoo over. So, why are they here? Because they > love Gentoo, and they want to help make it even better. > Yes, agree 100%. My thankfulness toward *all* devs. > So, basically, what I guess I'm trying to say, is that - yes, > sometimes things get a little heated, and yes, sometimes developers > don't communicate very well <gasp>, but, the cause behind *all* of > these discussions is a passion for making Gentoo better for us - the > users. > Maybe each one need to make a *little* sacrifice if him/her own ideas/opinions so to at least give a chance to others, to at least try to prove their points. The art of making a compromise. IMHO not all you think/see is true or right (just part of the whole). Even if thinking (at that moment) that this is *a little* wrong. > -James Rumen
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