061203 Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Philip Webb wrote:
>> Emerge details (this is the latest "unstable"):
>>  app-editors/gvim-7.0.174  USE="-acl (-aqua) -bash-completion -cscope
>>  -gnome gpm gtk motif -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -nls perl python -ruby"
> Mine are:
> app-editors/gvim-7.0.17  USE="cscope gpm gtk motif nls python -acl (-aqua)
> -bash-completion -gnome -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -perl -ruby"

So you differ in having "cscope nls -perl": could it be one of those ?

> Maybe I'll try unstable.  I have the same stable version in another box,
> and it doesn't have this problem.

Actually, I reverted briefly to 7.17 for another reason yesterday
& there was no difference in start-up time, so that's probably not it.

>> 'emerge world' is always a bad idea (grin).
> So I've heard, but what's the alternative?  I do it frequently,
> so as to not let problems build up. I also do revdep-rebuild -p.
> reading the forums I get the impression there's some design fault
> with the Gentoo way of upgrading, the need to keep the toolchain sane.

The last should correct itself as you upgrade pkgs.

The problem with 'emerge world' is that it makes assumptions for you,
which is the very opposite of the Gentoo Way (tm).  Once a week,
I do 'eix-sync', which produces a nicely-colored list of pkg changes
hilited to show those I have installed & their version updates.
Then I use 'emerge -Dup world' to see which order to follow
& a parallel version with the deprecated-but-shouldn't-be
'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge', which alerts me to pkgs
I am willing to try in an unstable version (roughly, apps vs system).
Then I make a written list of pkgs which I judge to deserve updating
& do a series of individual emerges.  I keep my own file of installed pkgs.

No, it's not the same to use  /etc/portage  to flag unstable pkgs:
I don't decide to use "unstable" by pkg-name, but by version
& some week-by-week judgement & choices.

I don't spend  6 hr  updating Open Office from -r1 to -r2
& I never -- never -- encounter unexpected blue-screen effects
after some broken attempt to 'emerge -XyZaBc world' (see list PASSIM).

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