On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:56:51 +0200
"Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Samstag, 7. Juli 2007, Thufir wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:47:24 -0700, kashani wrote:
> > >   I say bring on the easiness. Make a big fat button after
> > > the
> >
> > liveCD
> >
> > > loads that says "Just install it for me in a nice default kinda
> > > way so I can start playing with this whole USE flag thing I've
> > > heard so much about" and be done with it.
> >
> > The irony here is that gentoo has had the live cd for a long time
> > which makes installing so much easier, but just won't go that extra
> > step because...it's supposed to be hard?  If it's "supposed" to be
> > hard, why have the live cd?  seems contrary.
> >
> 
> well, hard filters out the 'I am stupid and I don't read
> documentation' crowd, which is a good thing. I would not call the
> installation via graphical installer 'hard', I would call it 'buggy
> beyond usefullness'.
> 
> Apart from that, IMHO a livecd is completly braindead. When compiling
> you need as much free ram as you can get. Every mb counts. And a
> livecd takes away A LOT of ram. Even more stupid - a livecd with
> gnome (which is the DE with the biggest ram usage).
> 
> So we have a livecd, which is stupid in itself, for installing and a
> buggy installer - only because to prevent some idiots from reading
> the documentation.
> 
> Is that really smart?
If your goal is, 

"We produce Gentoo Linux, a special flavor of Linux that can be
automatically optimized and customized for just about any application
or need. Extreme performance, configurability and a top-notch user and
developer community are all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. "

I think it's very smart to produce both a livecd and a minimal.  

Oh and by the way, I agree with all your points wholeheartedly.  But I
think getting rid of the livecd (or not putting substantial efforts
into its betterment) would be a move in the wrong direction.  
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