> >>>>>> Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking > >>>>>> at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like > >>>>>> things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to > >>>>>> be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there > >>>>>> is anything as satisfying as Gentoo out there. The concept is second > >>>>>> to none, the execution of that concept is fantastic, but it needs to > >>>>>> keep moving forward. What is the next step? Or should we keep > >>>>>> treading water? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Is this a continuation? > >>>>> http://groups.google.de/group/linux.gentoo.user/browse_thread/thread/cc31581cbfa4d0e2/a0b4a5d52f0bc112 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Yeah, it's me again. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I have a pretty small desktop system syncing weekly, and 2 others > >>> syncing from it. Every week I see upgrades in many packages, from > >>> system to desktop applications. I have 3 stable systems, with > >>> different roles (a server, a workstation and one in "dumb terminal > >>> with a web browser" mode), and they're completing 2 years of constant, > >>> careful and flawless upgrades. > >>> > >>> You don't need statistics, or reports, or whatever. This list is the > >>> living proof of Gentoo existence and the constant flow of information > >>> regarding it. Another good point is that BGO (bugs.gentoo.org) is also > >>> active, so, development is constant. > >>> > >>> I don't wanna sound rude, but this discussion is almost the same as > >>> that one, as unproductive and "starving for attention" too (but with a > >>> nice title), and this is the third edition. Don't get me wrong, but > >>> what exactly is the point of starting this threads? If you're worried > >>> about Gentoo slowing down or even dying, don't be, Gentoo is alive and > >>> kicking. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> I would agree Daniel, > >> > >> There is always stuff rollin' in from all the gentoo lists... It's > >> almost ridiculous how many discussions and threads are going on in > >> there. In that respect, I completely agree that the Gentoo project is > >> far from idle. For another snapshot of just how active gentoo is, check > >> out the IRC channels (#gentoo) and as Daniel said, bugs.gentoo.org. > >> > >> "Don't get me wrong, but what exactly is the point of starting this > >> threads? If you're worried about Gentoo slowing down or even dying, > >> don't be, Gentoo is alive and kicking." - Daniel > >> > >> It's true :) > >> > >> Feel free to post any ideas you have to enhance Gentoo's base > >> functionality to the list though, I think you've roused everyone's > >> curiosity Grant :D > >> > > > > My ideas aren't really important unless they're everyone else's ideas > > too. I'm sure a lot of us would like to see the same kind of stuff > > happen. The weird thing is, none of it is happening. This must be > > due to a lack of devs or dev interest right? I can't understand that. > > Gentoo should be just getting started at this point, and yet people > > seem to think it's finished. Sooner or later other distros will > > accomplish things that make Gentoo seem inferior. Ease of use is a > > good example, but it's just an example. Advancements will continue > > and Gentoo will be left in the dust if it doesn't advance also. > > > > - Grant > > > Good point as far as Gentoo just beginning. However, the portage system > is very powerful, mature, and fully featured as is the stage3 used as
I was under the same impression, but I'm hearing something different from some of the people on this list. It sounds like portage is not the facilitator I thought it was and is instead blocking progress. > the foundation for the base install. After that, it's up to the software > developers for each individual package which decides how "new" the > package is as well as the administrator of the system (You) whether or > not to use "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS" in order to pull the latest version (if > masked). Granted, it is also up to the Gentoo maintainers to make sure > the packages are ported correctly and as soon as possible. Is this > (portage maintainers) what you are referring too? Or are you referring The maintenance of some packages seems to be lagging, but there are others that are maintained very well.. > to Gentoo in a more broad sense as stagnating? If so, could you provide > some examples in which you see stagnation or less activity than you > believe we should be seeing. As I was saying before, I think additional removable layers should be built on top of Gentoo's foundation. Right now the foundation is great and we need to put that to good use. Is the current state of portage preventing this from happening? Is paludis the cure? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
