On Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2008, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:51:36 +0100
>
> "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Montag, 31. Dezember 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd just want to let you know there's an petition to NV on
> > > opening their driver code (or at least specs) to the free world:
> > >
> > > * http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/
> >
> > no, 'online petitions' are a worthless waste of time. They are like a
> > fart in the wind - just worse. They are like farting and then tell
> > everybody that you have farted. You are just angry that your beloved, but
> > maybe crappy hardware does not work with a driver that is pretty old by
> > now.
>
> Not true. It is true that a petition by itself will not do anything,
> but it serves another purposes. Any joining effort demonstrates that
> people actually care about a problem. And, by the way, if you fart,
> the less you can do is to be honest, and not blame anyone else while
> you are the only guilty.

believe me, all the guys constantly whining around on nvnews have shown nvidia 
already that there are people who care about this.

>
> This is not about old or new hardware, this is about getting a free
> driver, and that, as linux users, is something that would benefit
> everyone in this list. You don't seem to understand what this is
> about at all.

it is not about a free driver, it is about a stupid petition. If you want free 
drivers, support nouveau or write a polite letter to nvidia.

>
> > > Please sign the petition and spread around this link.
> >
> > Please don't spam.
>
> We could argue if this topic is valid for the list or not, that is
> debatable, but everything you wrote above this last sentence is pure
> spam. Far more spammy than the post of the original poster. And, in
> turn, you generated a need for additional responses, like the one from
> Neil Walker and this one that I am writing right now.

this topic and the 'support nouveau' has shown up on this list in the past AND 
every linux site out there SEVERAL times. So yes, it is spam. And asking 
people to spam other lists, makes it worse.

>
> Thing that could have been avoided if you just posted something in
> the lines of "Isn't this offtopic?", and nothing more.

Maybe you should have taken your own medicine? Not reacting at all to reduce 
noise? No?


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