On 01/26/2010 12:40 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 01/26/2010 12:06 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Montag 25 Januar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Monday 25 January 2010 23:11:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Today it is finally released. I don't know why it took so long. :)
It's a bit sad though that an open source project keeps secrets... I
found out that the tarballs were available for days now but only for
maintainers of KDE packages of various distros. For example Arch Linux
had RC2 binaries available in its [kde-unstable] repo since Jan 21, but
no one would give a link to the tarballs used to build the sources
because they are "secret".
Am I the only one to find this frustrating (to say the least)?
There's nothing secret here. Nothing to see, move along folks.
The code is always available in svn, if you wanted it that bad you could
have checked it out. It's common release engineering practice to build
a tarball from the repo and provide limited access to *those* files to
distros and mirrors to give them time to sync and build their binaries
before making them available to the public. I mirror Ubuntu and Fedora.
The deal is that I get the rpms and debs two days before the public
does. This is so that every official mirror on the planet is ready to
simultaneously publish the release *all*at*the*same*time*.
This is a very excellent way of working. You have no idea how much chaos
thousands of eager beaver users cause pounding away at my inbox if I
don't have the latest Ubuntu for them the day it is released because
sharks bit the undersea cable to London and the inbound bandwidth slows
to a crawl. I'm not making this up - stuff like this happens.
Gentoo erred in publishing ebuilds for tarballs that were not generally
available yet.
no, the user erred in stupid unmasking.
The user used the provided unmask file
(Documentation/package.unmask/kde-4.4).
before release.
Gentoo has a proud tradition of providing the ebuilds before the software is
released so as soon as the tarballs hit the mirrors you can start compiling.
If you unmask earlier and get errors you are the only person to blame.
And you keep trolling. All I said was that users who wish so should be
able to access the same tarballs as the distro people, I didn't say it's
Gentoo's fault; Alan said that, not me, so stop attacking me.
