On Wednesday 03 February 2010 01:27:19 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 00:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 February 2010 04:06:14 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > > The 50k of messages all look like this:
> >
> > That's definitely not right. Even with full debugging enabled no app
> > should emit that amount of logs.
> 
> and yet with debugging disabled, there's no cpu usage, so perhaps
> there's just a problem with my syslog-ng rules?
> 
> > Seeing as we are dealing with networkmanager with it's long history of
> > being hard to deal with, I recommend you
> >
> > a. recognize the truth - that it is a piece of shit
> 
> I appreciate the humour, but so far for me, it's Just Worked(TM).  Even
> with this log file annoyance, it's still "working".

You're the lucky one :-)

nm seems to work OK on the RedHats and SuSEs of this world, I've not seen many 
folk get it work smoothly on Gentoo

> > b. use wicd instead, which is decidedly not a piece of shit
> 
> I had a look at that, but it doesn't do 2 things that I use
> NetworkManager for:

In that case, you could retain NetworkManager and tweak your syslogger to 
discard the logs. You'd have to be specific in your MATCH otherwise you might 
toss too many false positives, but we already know you ignore those messages 
anyway
.
>      1. mobile broadband (essential for on the road)
>      2. NetworkManager sends dbus messages that evolution uses to toggle
>         its online / offline state.  I was sick of forever waiting for
>         evolution to time out because I'd gone offline.  (Granted, you
>         may think evolution is another POS, but it does certain things
>         that no other mail client can do, but that's another story)
> 
> I found a post that suggested in fact iwlagn wasn't reloading properly
> after a suspend, so I've added "UnloadModules iwlagn"
> to /etc/hibernate/common.conf and so far I haven't seen the spurious log
> messages (cross my fingers).

Unfortunately, that sounds all too realistic. I gave up trying to use suspend 
some time ago after battling with wirelss and graphics hardware that wouldn't 
suspend/resume reliably. But with 4G of RAM here, I find it doesn't take much 
longer to power down/cold start than suspend/resume
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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