Original got caught by mailman, didn't see it in geo-discuss moderate list. Interesting, though maybe more so for the dedicated standards-wankers than the gonzo lobbyists among us. Circling on... ----- Forwarded message from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----
The metadata consultation uses an Microsoft excel form that ressembles those common by the international standards organisation. Some of you may object that file format but it is the only one they accept. Compatibility with ISO 26300:2006 could be sought in that matter if felt important. I was confused by the consideration of the existing standard ISO 19115 that the inspire metadata project aims to "revise". How can that be done outside the ISO system? See also section 2.4: "The European Commission shall establish, in collaboration with stakeholders and relevant standardisation organisations, detailed guidelines and instructions for implementation to ensure interoperability of metadata. These will include instructions on how the European standards EN ISO 19115 and EN ISO 19119 shall be used to disseminate INSPIRE metadata, should one chose to use these standards." -- Of course ISO standards are international standards, not European ones. So why not just apply ISO 19115? I had a closer look at the Inspire metadata spec today, some quick observations: a) ed: no destinction between normative and informative sections of the spec or between spec and annex, annex should be merged. b) use of dublin core? c) references to standard requirements in the annex without proper references d) "limitations" - fields are mandatory, 2.2.9 e) no explicit EIF 1.0 framework compatibility reference which should be considered to get added to section 2.4. f) no support chains of CC licensing models g) access fee does not belong in the document, only associated permissions or rights conferred h) ed: p.1. "EU-Commission" as publisher, source is too general and misleading. i) tech: the spec mentions "free text", char sets are not specified. It is recommended to apply UTF8 j) Drafters in some parts refer to ISO 8601, in other parts they do not or aim to develop their own format. See also *EN 28601:1992* k) gen: consider to take ISO 14721:2003 (OAIS) into account. l) gen: open questions about the maintenance regime Jo Walsh schrieb: >I don't see any contact details, or any background as to how the >members of the workgroup identified a range of standards as "fake". > Actually there are right now two different efforts to address the topic of open standardization. One is the working group, another one is Digital Standard (digistan), a new organisation we set up. The main concern is openness of the standard process and addressing the issue of vendor capture, not particular standards. We are also involved with DIS 29500 discussions. >I'm also surprised to see so many ISO standards clearly identified as >"open" and "inclusive", and to see the FFII offering this >justification of the ISO's pay-to-play policy: [[ But specification >itself could cost a fair amount of money (ie. 100-400Eur per copy as >in ISO because copyright and publication of the document itself).]] > Usually it is no real problem. However, some of us considered cc licensing models as criteria which would exclude certain standards. "Free spec" is really a totally different demand and not the crucial one. The underlying issue is how to finance the standard process. Fees are limitations on the disseminationof the standard and should be kept to the bare minimum. But spec costs are less crucial than limitations on the use of the spec. Our main concern is the market neutrality of the standard. //Andre ----- End forwarded message ----- -- _______________________________________________ geo-discuss mailing list geo-discuss@lists.okfn.org http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/geo-discuss