Hi All,
 
The global warming from ice age to the present, why it stopped there?
 
1) Methane clatrates of the Arctic Ocean (and elsewhere) were re-pressurised by 
the rising sea levels world-wide. This shut down a supply of methane, a 
Greenhouse gas, during the warming period from Last Glacial Maximum to Younger 
Dryas whereabouts.
 
2) The continental sea beds (i.e. Beringia) that were exposed to air at the end 
of ice age, no longer were warmed and decomposing as the heat and sunlight no 
longer had a direct hit on them as the sea advanced, buried and removed them 
from melted permafrost areas.
 
3) Just like theories suggest that the climatic cooling that followed the 
Medieval bubonic plaques, [due to some 60% of agricultural land reverting back 
to forests], the growing vegetation of the warmer world at the end of ice age 
self-regulated by absorving CO2 to advancing forests. 

 
4) I tend to agree with most Greenlanders that the impact of variations of Gulf 
Stream in the overall heat budget of the entire Northern Hemisphere has been 
overplayed.  Despite of weakening of Gulf Stream and virtually complete 
shutdown of Newfounland branch, even these regions where southernly sea 
currents have been seen disappearing have also warmed up due to increased winds 
that have largely replaced heat losses from sea currents, storms delivering 
heat more erratically.
 
5) The issues raised at United Nations General Assembly back in 1992 suggesting 
that the Western countries are wrong, and the paleo-glaciation in Northern 
hemisphere was geothermally induced event rather than the currently popular 
paradigm of orbital forcings that caused the ice age. The recent discrepancies 
in the onset of Greenland's glaciation timing of which has been pushed from 
Pleiostocene 2-3 Myr to Oligocene 23 Myr has highlighted the uncertainties and 
method reliability for the timing estimates and astronomic cause paradigm as 
advocated by the western countries.
 
If you have any contacts interested in our investigation on geothermal 
fluctuations role on creation of ice ages and interglacials instead of 
Milankovits orbital forcings, your feed back would be much appreaciated as we 
are dealing with the complaint to the UN Under Secretary. Any issues on sea 
level instability, outside the normal melting ranges, also predominanly plays 
role in this also.
 
As we are working with contentious issue raised at the UN about abuse of the 
Western nations gravitating the scientific debate to their "hugging of each 
other", we are not rushed to put out every aspects without consultation to the 
coalition of nation principals. Nor we have evidence collected to back the 
geothermally induced ice age hypothesis (run of short life cosmogenic carbon-14 
from subglacial, pre-glaciation era Greenland biodetritus).
 
Rgs, albert
 
1.  Meltwater turned off the Gulf Stream, allowing the Arctic sea ice to grow, 
cooling the Arctic region with positive feedback on this cooling sufficient to 
make the global temperature fall sharply.
 
2.  Despite greenhouse warming from water vapour (a positive feedback on global 
warming), cloud cover increased, with cloud brightening from the fiercer storms 
at sea (resulting from the global warming).  This extra albedo was sufficient 
to offset the water vapour greenhouse effect and cool the Gulf Stream, allowing 
Arctic sea ice to grow.
 
3.  Sea level rise caused pressure on coastal magma chambers, thus increasing 
volcanic activity, which had an immediate cooling effect, through fine dust and 
aerosols in the stratosphere.  This again could have allowed Arctic sea ice to 
grow.
 
4.  Any others?


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Hi all,
 
Through the Ice Ages, temperatures rose sharply during interglacial periods, 
but peaked at around the temperature we have today.  This temperature seemed to 
have been a natural limit.  What was the thermostat mechanism that stopped 
temperatures going higher?  Here are some possible theories:
 
1.  Meltwater turned off the Gulf Stream, allowing the Arctic sea ice to grow, 
cooling the Arctic region with positive feedback on this cooling sufficient to 
make the global temperature fall sharply.
 
2.  Despite greenhouse warming from water vapour (a positive feedback on global 
warming), cloud cover increased, with cloud brightening from the fiercer storms 
at sea (resulting from the global warming).  This extra albedo was sufficient 
to offset the water vapour greenhouse effect and cool the Gulf Stream, allowing 
Arctic sea ice to grow.
 
3.  Sea level rise caused pressure on coastal magma chambers, thus increasing 
volcanic activity, which had an immediate cooling effect, through fine dust and 
aerosols in the stratosphere.  This again could have allowed Arctic sea ice to 
grow.
 
4.  Any others?
 
In each case, grow-back of the Arctic sea may have been crucial to get an 
amplification of an initial cooling.  If so, the Arctic sea ice has been 
essential to the Earth's thermostat control.  But today we are seeing this 
thermostat breaking in front of our eyes.  That is a powerful argument for 
geoengineering to save the Arctic sea ice.  Pronto.
 
Cheers from Chiswick,
 
John
 
 
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