Thanks to Sam for all this content.  It's not typical climate-change
stuff, so a little unusual for this group.

Here's the wiki i built for it.  I hope people will add to and edit it.

2008/12/30 Sam Carana <>:
> Here are some thought that may be helpful, Andrew.
> How about first editing the webpage at
> Start a new sub branch called hydrological geoengineering
> referring to the page at
> Then, on the latter page, include some geoengineering projects that
> have been discussed for years, when the term geoengineering wasn't as
> closely associated with global warming as it is today. Geoengineering
> projects in the past included engineering projects that spanned entire
> continents, such as the following three proposals to engineer rain in
> Australia, the dry continent:
> - In 1998, John West came up with the idea of a 2,300km canal to split
> Australia in two, from Darwin in the north to the Spencer Gulf in
> South Australia. The canal would allow ships to access the center of
> Australia and provide water for irrigation by means of desalination
> plants. Much water would evaporate inland from the canal and
> contribute to clouds and rain.
> - Lawrence James Hogan described in his book "Man-made mountain", 1979
> (ISBN: 0959557105) the idea to construct a mountain range, 2000km
> long, 10km wide at the base, 4 km tall and with a 2km plateau at the
> top, from the south of Australia to the Timor Sea in the north. The
> idea was that this could create rain in the dry interior of Australia,
> starting rivers that could fertilize large tracts of land.
> - Proposals to pipe or channel seawater into Lake Eyre were made as
> far back as 1883. Lake Eyre is a usually dry lake which at its lowest
> point is 15 meter below sea-level. Flooding Lake Eyre could create
> clouds and rain for inland Australia, which could similarly turn
> desert into fertile land.
> The above projects could be regarded as hydraulic or hydrological
> geoengineering projects because of their scale and they all date back
> more than a decade.
> You could also mention projects in China. For years there have also
> been fears in India that China would start diverting water from the
> Yarlung Zangbo River (upper reaches of the Brahmaputra) in the
> Himalaya to the north of China. Two years ago, China's Water Resources
> Minister Wang Shucheng, a hydraulic engineer, denied that there were
> such plans, but the fears continue in India and Bangladesh.
> Because such plans affect huge amounts of people and span huge amount
> of land, they are sometimes described as geoengineering projects.
> Similarly, the Three Gorges Dam, constructed along the Yangtze river,
> is - because of its huge scale - sometimes described as a hydrological
> geoengineering project.
> In 2003, the Chinese government announced plans for a $60-billion
> scheme to divert water from a tributary of the River Yangtze
> northwards from three different locations, partly using the old Grand
> Canal, which was built in imperial times to transport goods. Earlier
> this month, New Scientist reported that the completion date for the
> has been postponed and that the project is now in doubt. The eastern
> route, using the ancient Grand Canal, is held up because factories are
> polluting the canal. The western route, tapping the Yangtze headwaters
> in Tibet, has not been started. Officials also blame pollution for the
> latest delay to the middle route - a canal stretching more than 1200
> kilometres from the Danjiangkou reservoir on the River Han.
> Anyway, you could include such above projects on the page at
> Then, you could mention a sub branch on that page called
> arctic hydrological geoengineering
> Cheers!
> Sam Carana
> On Dec 30, 10:11 pm, "Andrew Lockley" <>
> wrote:
>> Wikipedia is going to DELETE the hydrological geoengineering article
>> as they say that the name is not found outside wikipedia (well
>> spotted, I made it up).  To stop this, I need to know what the PROPER
>> term (used in the literature) for such projects are.  In the meantime,
>> I will probably have to move all the content onto the main geoeng page
>> to preserve it - sorry if it then loos a bit cluttered.
>> A
> >

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