Landfills have lots of microbial activity.  Methane production in landfills is 
significant.  Landfills may be operated dry or wet, but either way organic 
matter in a landfill cannot be considered inert.  And no way is a landfill gas 
tight.


  = Stuart =

Stuart E. Strand
167 Wilcox Hall, Box 352700, Univ. Washington, Seattle, WA 98195
voice 206-543-5350, fax 206-685-3836
skype:  stuartestrand
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Using only muscle power,  who is the fastest person in the world?
Flying start, 200 m  82.3 mph! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Whittingham  
Hour                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour_record
  55 miles, upside down, backwards, and head first!


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 6:03 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] Re: Synthesis of cyanuric acid from atmospheric carbon dioxide 
(from Robert Hahl, Ph.D., Patent Attorney )


Not in a landfill.

On Jan 3, 9:10 pm, Stuart Strand <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cynauric acid is biodegradable aerobically and anaerobically.  The carbon 
> would return to the atmosphere.
>
>   = Stuart =
>
> Stuart E. Strand
> 167 Wilcox Hall, Box 352700, Univ. Washington, Seattle, WA 98195
> voice 206-543-5350, fax 206-685-3836
> skype:  stuartestrandhttp://faculty.washington.edu/sstrand/
>
> Using only muscle power,  who is the fastest person in the world?
> Flying start, 200 m  82.3 mph!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Whittingham 
> Hour                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour_record
>   55 miles, upside down, backwards, and head first!
>
>
>
>
>
> > Perhaps this synthetic sequence could remove CO2 from the air at low
> > cost and high throughput.
>
> > (1) Electrolysis of water (solar or wind energy) -----> hydrogen gas
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water
>
> > (2) Haber process using hydrogen gas from (1) + nitrogen from air -----
> >> ammonia
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
>
> > (3) Carbonic anydrase in water + CO2 from air -----> carbonic acid
> > -----> carbon dioxide gas
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_anhydrase
>
> > (4) carbon dioxide from (3) + ammonia from (2) ------> urea
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea
>
> > (5) urea -----> cyanuric acid -----> land fill
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanuric_acid
>
> > Step 3) would reduce CO2 levels rather than just avoid increasing them
> > (as with carbon capture), in case of a real emergency in which we must
> > remove CO2 or perish.
>
> > Step 1) could put wind and solar energy equipment to good use for a
> > change, and less need for cooperation by existing electrical grid
> > operators than renewable energy projects normally entail.
>
> > As to the energy consumption of the Haber process, it may be
> > reasonable since the hydrogen is not from reformation of methane.
>
> > Robert Hahl, Ph.D., Patent Attorney
> > Neifeld IP Law, PC
> > 4813-B Eisenhower Avenue
> > Alexandria, VA 22304
> >www.neifeld.com
> > Tel: 703-415-0012 ext 25
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