Yeah, right.  The reason we talk so much about ocean acidification
around here is that we're part of a nefarious plot to make it worse.
What a doofus.  (Of course, I was more polite than that in my comment
on the blog.)

On Jan 23, 10:26 am, "John Nissen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have just posted this to bristlingbadger 
> blogspot:http://bristlingbadger.blogspot.com/2009/01/geoengineering-ethically-...
>
> ---
>
> David Schnare is absolutely right - we already have a dangerous level of CO2 
> in the atmosphere and it is necessary to use carbon-removal geoengineering to 
> reduce CO2 levels as a stop-gap measure.  But we have a more immediate hazard 
> - the Arctic sea ice - whose end summer extent has been declining and could 
> be near zero in a few years.  This is causing accelerated warming of the 
> whole Arctic region, risking massive methane release from permafrost which 
> would cause runaway global warming.  To cool the Arctic and save the Arctic 
> sea ice, we need albedo geoengineering, for example with the cloud 
> brightening techniques of John Latham et al., described in this blog.  It is 
> claimed the cost would be under $1 billion for the boats, and well under $1 
> billion per year for the running cost, to cool the sea sufficiently for sea 
> ice to recover.
>
> Reducing carbon emissions cannot save the Arctic sea ice - but albedo 
> geoengineering has a good chance, if we act now.  The moral hazard is to 
> ignore this opportunity and condemn us all to catastrophe from that methane 
> release.
>
> Cheers from Chiswick,
>
> John Nissen
>
> ---
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: David Schnare
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:45 PM
>   Subject: [geo] Re: Badgering Geoengineering
>
>   Here is the response I posted to the blogspot:
>
>   The failure in your argument is that we have already pass 450 ppm CO2eq, 
> and, using the logics of the IPCC, it is too late to prevent devestating 
> climate change unless we use geoengineering as a stop-gap measure. Further, 
> those doing serious work on geoengineering are the first to explain that 
> efforts to reduce carbon emissions should not be slowed by the need for a 
> stop-gap measure.
>
>   The great moral hazard we face is not geoengineering but the hubris to 
> think we as a human civilization have the will and the organization to reduce 
> carbon emissions to levels necessary to prevent catastrophic climate change. 
> It is too late to do so, and to think that is a realistic approach is the 
> moral hazard that will condemn us to catastrophe.
>
>   David Schnare, Esq. Ph.D.
>   Director
>   Center for Environmental Stewardship
>   Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy
>
>   [snip]
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