Dear Colleagues,

Lenton and Vaugn ignored or response to Vogt et al  The letter below
appears as a discusion comment associated with the Lenton/Vaughan
paper.

OWW

Dear Prof. Lenton:

Thank you for considering our possible geoengineering solution in your
paper.  I would like to clear up some misconceptions.  We consider
fertilizing several small areas of the Southern Ocean to nanomolar
concentrations of iron.  Not one large patch, in order to minimize
particle growth and maximize new particle formation [Wingenter et al.,
2007]. First it is unfair to compare our regional solution to possibly
slowing, or prevent, the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet from melting and
raising sea level an additional 6 meters.  I believe this is covered
fairly well in our reply [attached; Wingenter et al., 2008] to Vogt et
al [2008], which appears in the same edition of Atmospheric
Environment.  Secondly, we feel a 20 % percent increase of DMS will
lead to a 10% increase in CCN.  This is based on the paper by Ayers et
al. [1997].  Unfortunately, Vogt et al., apply two treatments to the
hypothetical 20 % increase and arrive at a smaller conversion of DMS
to CCN when only one treatment is called for. The mistakes of our UEA
colleagues mistake is also discussed in our reply to Vogt et al.

Perhaps more importantly is that our original paper describes how to
cool the SO region 2 C.  Are estimate is not based on a GCM modeling
study and contains no feedbacks.  They are simply, first order,
calculation as described in this paper.  Vogt et al. estimate is also
done at the same level.  Considering the very large uncertainties in
this type of an approach, our estimates are actually in agreement.  If
this geoengineering method is to be tried on a limited basis, we would
advocate the much smaller two percent fertilization of an area than an
initial 8% area of fertilization suggested by Vogt et al. to attain
the a 2 C cooling.

However, cooling the Southern Ocean region 2 C is perhaps 1.5 C to
much and would likely cause changes to the general atmospheric and
ocean circulation.  Perhaps fertilizing just some regions near the
coast would accomplish the necessary ice sheet stabilization we seek.
The idea is only in its infancy and we hope more in depth study will
improve our concept.

Sincerely,


Oliver W. Wingenter, Ph.D.
Assoc. Prof. of Atmospheric Chemistry
Research Scientist, Geophysical Research Center
New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
Socorro, New Mexico 87801
505-835-5263 Telephone


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